On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 4:25 PM Ivan Babrou <ivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > My understanding of mem-stat and cpu-stat is that they are independent > > of each other. In theory, reading one shouldn't affect the performance > > of reading the others. Since you are doing mem-stat and cpu-stat reading > > repetitively in a loop, it is likely that all the data are in the cache > > most of the time resulting in very fast processing time. If it happens > > that the specific memory location of mem-stat and cpu-stat data are such > > that reading one will cause the other data to be flushed out of the > > cache and have to be re-read from memory again, you could see > > significant performance regression. > > > > It is one of the possible causes, but I may be wrong. > > Do you think it's somewhat similar to how iterating a matrix in rows > is faster than in columns due to sequential vs random memory reads? > > * https://stackoverflow.com/q/9936132 > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Row-_and_column-major_order > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_interchange > > I've had a similar suspicion and it would be good to confirm whether > it's that or something else. I can probably collect perf counters for > different runs, but I'm not sure which ones I'll need. > > In a similar vein, if we could come up with a tracepoint that would > tell us the amount of work done (or any other relevant metric that > would help) during rstat flushing, I can certainly collect that > information as well for every reading combination. Since cgroup_rstat_flush_locked appears in flamegraphs for both fast (discrete) and slow (combined) cases, I grabbed some stats for it: * Slow: completed: 19.43s [manual / mem-stat + cpu-stat] $ sudo /usr/share/bcc/tools/funclatency -uT cgroup_rstat_flush_locked Tracing 1 functions for "cgroup_rstat_flush_locked"... Hit Ctrl-C to end. ^C 00:12:55 usecs : count distribution 0 -> 1 : 0 | | 2 -> 3 : 0 | | 4 -> 7 : 0 | | 8 -> 15 : 0 | | 16 -> 31 : 0 | | 32 -> 63 : 0 | | 64 -> 127 : 1 | | 128 -> 255 : 191 |************ | 256 -> 511 : 590 |****************************************| 512 -> 1023 : 186 |************ | 1024 -> 2047 : 2 | | 2048 -> 4095 : 0 | | 4096 -> 8191 : 0 | | 8192 -> 16383 : 504 |********************************** | 16384 -> 32767 : 514 |********************************** | 32768 -> 65535 : 3 | | 65536 -> 131071 : 1 | | avg = 8852 usecs, total: 17633268 usecs, count: 1992 * Fast: completed: 0.95s [manual / mem-stat] completed: 0.05s [manual / cpu-stat] $ sudo /usr/share/bcc/tools/funclatency -uT cgroup_rstat_flush_locked Tracing 1 functions for "cgroup_rstat_flush_locked"... Hit Ctrl-C to end. ^C 00:13:27 usecs : count distribution 0 -> 1 : 0 | | 2 -> 3 : 0 | | 4 -> 7 : 499 |****************************************| 8 -> 15 : 253 |******************** | 16 -> 31 : 191 |*************** | 32 -> 63 : 41 |*** | 64 -> 127 : 12 | | 128 -> 255 : 2 | | 256 -> 511 : 2 | | 512 -> 1023 : 0 | | 1024 -> 2047 : 0 | | 2048 -> 4095 : 0 | | 4096 -> 8191 : 0 | | 8192 -> 16383 : 34 |** | 16384 -> 32767 : 21 |* | avg = 857 usecs, total: 904762 usecs, count: 1055 There's a different number of calls into cgroup_rstat_flush_locked and they are much slower in the slow case. There are also two bands in the slow case, with 8ms..32ms having the half of the calls. For mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush: * Slow: completed: 32.77s [manual / mem-stat + cpu-stat] $ sudo /usr/share/bcc/tools/funclatency -uT mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush Tracing 1 functions for "mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush"... Hit Ctrl-C to end. ^C 00:21:25 usecs : count distribution 0 -> 1 : 93078 |* | 2 -> 3 : 3397714 |****************************************| 4 -> 7 : 1009440 |*********** | 8 -> 15 : 168013 |* | 16 -> 31 : 93 | | avg = 3 usecs, total: 17189289 usecs, count: 4668338 * Fast: completed: 0.16s [manual / mem-stat] completed: 0.04s [manual / cpu-stat] $ sudo /usr/share/bcc/tools/funclatency -uT mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush Tracing 1 functions for "mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush"... Hit Ctrl-C to end. ^C 00:21:57 usecs : count distribution 0 -> 1 : 1441 |*** | 2 -> 3 : 18780 |****************************************| 4 -> 7 : 4826 |********** | 8 -> 15 : 732 |* | 16 -> 31 : 1 | | avg = 3 usecs, total: 89174 usecs, count: 25780 There's an 181x difference in the number of calls into mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush. Does this provide a clue? Perhaps cgroup_rstat_cpu_pop_updated is yielding a ton more iterations for some reason here? * https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.1/source/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c#L196 It's inlined, but I can place a probe into the loop: 7 for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) { 8 raw_spinlock_t *cpu_lock = per_cpu_ptr(&cgroup_rstat_cpu_lock, cpu); 10 struct cgroup *pos = NULL; unsigned long flags; /* * The _irqsave() is needed because cgroup_rstat_lock is * spinlock_t which is a sleeping lock on PREEMPT_RT. Acquiring * this lock with the _irq() suffix only disables interrupts on * a non-PREEMPT_RT kernel. The raw_spinlock_t below disables * interrupts on both configurations. The _irqsave() ensures * that interrupts are always disabled and later restored. */ raw_spin_lock_irqsave(cpu_lock, flags); while ((pos = cgroup_rstat_cpu_pop_updated(pos, cgrp, cpu))) { struct cgroup_subsys_state *css; cgroup_base_stat_flush(pos, cpu); 26 bpf_rstat_flush(pos, cgroup_parent(pos), cpu); 28 rcu_read_lock(); 29 list_for_each_entry_rcu(css, &pos->rstat_css_list, rstat_css_node) 31 css->ss->css_rstat_flush(css, cpu); 32 rcu_read_unlock(); } 34 raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(cpu_lock, flags); I added probes on both line 26 and line 31 to catch the middle and inner loops. * Slow: completed: 32.97s [manual / mem-stat + cpu-stat] Performance counter stats for '/tmp/derp': 4,702,570 probe:cgroup_rstat_flush_locked_L26 9,301,436 probe:cgroup_rstat_flush_locked_L31 * Fast: completed: 0.17s [manual / mem-stat] completed: 0.34s [manual / cpu-stat] Performance counter stats for '/tmp/derp': 31,769 probe:cgroup_rstat_flush_locked_L26 62,849 probe:cgroup_rstat_flush_locked_L31 It definitely looks like cgroup_rstat_cpu_pop_updated is yielding a lot more positions. I'm going to sign off for the week, but let me know if I should place any more probes to nail this down.