On Tue 28-03-23 09:25:35, Mike Rapoport wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 03:43:27PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Sat 25-03-23 09:38:12, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 09:37:31AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > On Wed 08-03-23 11:41:02, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > > > > From: "Mike Rapoport (IBM)" <rppt@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > When set_memory or set_direct_map APIs used to change attribute or > > > > > permissions for chunks of several pages, the large PMD that maps these > > > > > pages in the direct map must be split. Fragmenting the direct map in such > > > > > manner causes TLB pressure and, eventually, performance degradation. > > > > > > > > > > To avoid excessive direct map fragmentation, add ability to allocate > > > > > "unmapped" pages with __GFP_UNMAPPED flag that will cause removal of the > > > > > allocated pages from the direct map and use a cache of the unmapped pages. > > > > > > > > > > This cache is replenished with higher order pages with preference for > > > > > PMD_SIZE pages when possible so that there will be fewer splits of large > > > > > pages in the direct map. > > > > > > > > > > The cache is implemented as a buddy allocator, so it can serve high order > > > > > allocations of unmapped pages. > > > > > > > > Why do we need a dedicated gfp flag for all this when a dedicated > > > > allocator is used anyway. What prevents users to call unmapped_pages_{alloc,free}? > > > > > > Using unmapped_pages_{alloc,free} adds complexity to the users which IMO > > > outweighs the cost of a dedicated gfp flag. > > > > Aren't those users rare and very special anyway? > > > > > For modules we'd have to make x86::module_{alloc,free}() take care of > > > mapping and unmapping the allocated pages in the modules virtual address > > > range. This also might become relevant for another architectures in future > > > and than we'll have several complex module_alloc()s. > > > > The module_alloc use is lacking any justification. More context would be > > more than useful. Also vmalloc support for the proposed __GFP_UNMAPPED > > likely needs more explanation as well. > > Right now module_alloc() boils down to vmalloc() with the virtual range > limited to the modules area. The allocated chunk contains both code and > data. When CONFIG_STRICT_MODULE_RWX is set, parts of the memory allocated > with module_alloc() remapped with different permissions both in vmalloc > address space and in the direct map. The change of permissions for small > ranges causes splits of large pages in the direct map. OK, so you want to reduce that direct map fragmentation? Is that a real problem? My impression is that modules are mostly static thing. BPF might be a different thing though. I have a recollection that BPF guys were dealing with direct map fragmention as well. > If we were to use unmapped_pages_alloc() in modules_alloc(), we would have > to implement the part of vmalloc() that reserves the virtual addresses and > maps the allocated memory there in module_alloc(). Another option would be to provide an allocator for the backing pages to vmalloc. But I do agree that a gfp flag is a less laborous way to achieve the same. So the primary question really is whether we really need vmalloc support for unmapped memory. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs