Sorry about the word-wrap last email, here i resend it w/ hopefully
better looking:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Ying,
>
> On 04/24/2012 08:18 AM, Ying Han wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:20 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
>> <kosaki.motohiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ying Han <yinghan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> This is not a patch targeted to be merged at all, but trying to understand
>>>> a logic in global direct reclaim.
>>>>
>>>> There is a logic in global direct reclaim where reclaim fails on priority 0
>>>> and zone->all_unreclaimable is not set, it will cause the direct to start over
>>>> from DEF_PRIORITY. In some extreme cases, we've seen the system hang which is
>>>> very likely caused by direct reclaim enters infinite loop.
>>>>
>>>> There have been serious patches trying to fix similar issue and the latest
>>>> patch has good summary of all the efforts:
>>>>
>>>> commit 929bea7c714220fc76ce3f75bef9056477c28e74
>>>> Author: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Thu Apr 14 15:22:12 2011 -0700
>>>>
>>>> vmscan: all_unreclaimable() use zone->all_unreclaimable as a name
>>>>
>>>> Kosaki explained the problem triggered by async zone->all_unreclaimable and
>>>> zone->pages_scanned where the later one was being checked by direct reclaim.
>>>> However, after the patch, the problem remains where the setting of
>>>> zone->all_unreclaimable is asynchronous with zone is actually reclaimable or not.
>>>>
>>>> The zone->all_unreclaimable flag is set by kswapd by checking zone->pages_scanned in
>>>> zone_reclaimable(). Is that possible to have zone->all_unreclaimable == false while
>>>> the zone is actually unreclaimable?
>>>>
>>>> 1. while kswapd in reclaim priority loop, someone frees a page on the zone. It
>>>> will end up resetting the pages_scanned.
>>>>
>>>> 2. kswapd is frozen for whatever reason. I noticed Kosaki's covered the
>>>> hibernation case by checking oom_killer_disabled, but not sure if that is
>>>> everything we need to worry about. The key point here is that direct reclaim
>>>> relies on a flag which is set by kswapd asynchronously, that doesn't sound safe.
>>>
>>> If kswapd was frozen except hibernation, why don't you add frozen
>>> check instead of
>>> hibernation check? And when and why is that happen?
>>
>> I haven't tried to reproduce the issue, so everything is based on
>> eye-balling the code. The problem is that we have the potential
>> infinite loop in direct reclaim where it keeps trying as long as
>> !zone->all_unreclaimable.
>>
>> The flag is only set by kswapd and it will skip setting the flag if
>> the following condition is true:
>>
>> zone->pages_scanned < zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6;
>>
>> In a few-pages-on-lru condition, the zone->pages_scanned is easily
>> remains 0 and also it is reset to 0 everytime a page being freed.
>> Then, i will cause global direct reclaim entering infinite loop.
>>
>
>
> how does zone->pages_scanned become 0 easily in global reclaim?
> Once VM has pages in LRU, it wouldn't be a zero. Look at isolate_lru_pages.
> The problem is get_scan_count which could prevent scanning of LRU list but
> it works well now. If the priority isn't zero and there are few pages in LRU,
> it could be a zero scan but when the priority drop at zero, it could let VM scan
> less pages under SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX. So pages_scanned would be increased.
Yes, that is true. But the pages_scanned will be reset on freeing a
page and that could happen asynchronously. For example I have only 2
pages on file_lru (w/o swap), and here is what is supposed to happen:
A kswapd B
direct reclaim
priority DEP_PRIORITY to 0
zone->pages_scanned = 3
zone_reclaimable() == true
zone->all_unreclaimable == 0
nr_reclaimed == 0 & !zone->all_unreclaimable
retry
priority DEP_PRIORITY to 0
zone->pages_scanned = 6
zone_reclaimable() == true
zone->all_unreclaimable == 0
nr_reclaimed == 0 & !zone->all_unreclaimable
retry
repeat the above which eventually
zone->pages_scanned will grow
zone->pages_scanned to 12
zone_reclaimable() == false
zone->all_unreclaimable == 1
nr_reclaimed == 0 & zone->all_unreclaimable
oom
However, what if B frees a pages everytime before pages_scanned
reaches the point, then we won't set zone->all_unreclaimable at all.
If so, we reaches a livelock here...
--Ying
>
> I think the problem is live-lock as follows,
>
>
> A kswapd B
>
> direct reclaim
> reclaim a page
> pages_scanned check <- skip
>
> steal a page reclaimed by A
> use the page for user memory.
> alloc failed
> retry
>
> In this scenario, process A would be a live-locked.
> Does it make sense for infinite loop case you mentioned?
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Minchan Kim
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/
Don't email: <a href