On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:07:41 -0700 > Ying Han <yinghan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> My understanding of the real pain is the poor implementation of the >> mmu_shrinker. It iterates all the registered mmu_shrink callbacks for >> each kvm and only does little work at a time while holding two big >> locks. I learned from mikew@ (also ++cc-ed) that is causing latency >> spikes and unfairness among kvm instance in some of the experiment >> we've seen. The pains we have with mmu_shrink are twofold: - Memory pressure against the shinker applies globally. Any task can cause pressure within their own environment (using numa or memcg) and cause the global shrinker to shrink all shadowed tables on the system (regardless of how memory is isolated between tasks). - Massive lock contention when all these CPUs are hitting the global lock (which backs everybody on the system up). In our situation, we simple disable the shrinker altogether. My understanding is that we EPT or NPT, the amount of memory used by these tables is bounded by the size of guest physical memory, whereas with software shadowed tables, it is bounded by the addresses spaces in the guest. This bound makes it reasonable to not do any reclaim and charge it as a "system overhead tax". As for data, the most impressive result was a massive improvement in round-trip latency to a webserver running in a guest while another process on the system was thrashing through page-cache (on a dozen or so spinning disks iirc). We were using fake-numa, and would otherwise not expect the antagonist to drastrically affect the latency-sensitive task (as per a lot of effort into making that work). Unfortunately, we saw the 99th%ile latency riding at the 140ms timeout cut-off (they were likely tailing out much longer), with the 95%ile at over 40ms. With the mmu_shrinker disabled, the 99th%ile latency quickly dropped down to about 20ms. CPU profiles were showing 30% of cpu time wasted on spinlocks, all the mmu_list_lock iirc. In our case, I'm much happier just disabling the damned thing altogether. > > Last year, I discussed the mmu_shrink issues on kvm ML: > > [PATCH 0/4] KVM: Make mmu_shrink() scan nr_to_scan shadow pages > http://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg65231.html > > Sadly, we could not find any good way at that time. > > Thanks, > Takuya -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/ Don't email: <a href