Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Swap Abstraction / Native Zswap

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Hi Matthew,

On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 04:31:33AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> I think an overhaul of the swap code is long overdue.  I appreciate
> you're very much focused on zswap, but there are many other problems.
> For example, swap does not work on zoned devices.  Swap readahead is
> generally physical (ie optimised for spinning discs) rather than logical
> (more appropriate for SSDs).  Swap's management of free space is crude
> compared to real filesystems.  The way that swap bypasses the filesystem
> when writing to swap files is awful.  I haven't even started to look at

Can you expand a bit on that? I assume you want to see the swap file
behavior more like a normal file system and reuse more of the readpage()
and writepage() path.

> what changes need to be made to swap in order to swap out arbitrary-order
> folios (instead of PMD-sized + PTE-sized).

When the page fault happens, does the whole folios get swapped in or break
into smaller pages?

> I'm probably not a great person to participate in the design of a
> replacement system.  I don't know nearly enough about anonymous memory.
> I'd be sitting in the back shouting unhelpful things like, "Can't you
> see an anon_vma is the exact same thing as an inode?"  and "Why don't
> we steal the block allocation functions from XFS?"  and "Why do tmpfs

I notice the swap_map has one byte per swap entry even the swap is not
used.

> pages have to move to the swap cache; can't we just leave them in the
> page cache and pass them to the swap code directly?"

All great suggestions and I am very interested in that.

Chris




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