Hi Matthew, all, I’ve recently been looking into some potential performance improvements, and think that folios could help with making these improvements a reality. I’m hoping that you can answer some questions to help figure out if this makes sense. First a quick summary of my bench-marking; I’ve been running a Kernel Compilation test as well as the Speedometer browser performance benchmark (among others), while trying to better understand the impact of page size on both HW and SW. To do this, I’ve hacked the arm64 arch code to separate the HW page size (4K) from the kernel page size (16K). Then I ran 3 kernels (baseline-4k, baseline-16k, and my hacked up hybrid-16k-4k) - all based on v6.1 - with the aim of determining the speedups due solely to SW overhead reduction (baseline-4k -> hybrid-16k-4k), and the speedups due to HW overhead reduction (baseline-4k -> (baseline-16k - hybrid-16k-4k)). Results as follows: Kernel Compilation: Speed up due to SW overhead reduction: 6.5% Speed up due to HW overhead reduction: 5.0% Total speed up: 11.5% Speedometer 2.0: Speed up due to SW overhead reduction: 5.3% Speed up due to HW overhead reduction: 5.1% Total speed up: 10.4% Digging into the reasons for the SW-side speedup, it boils down to less book-keeping - 4x fewer page faults, 4x fewer pages to manage locks/refcounts/… for, which leads to faster abort and syscall handling. I think these phenomena are well understood in the Folio context? Although for these workloads, the memory is primarily anonymous. I’d like to figure out how to realise some of these benefits in a kernel that still maintains a 4K page user ABI. Reading over old threads, LWN and watching Matthew’s talk at OSS last summer, it sounds like this is exactly what Folios intend to solve? So a few questions: - I’ve seen folios for anon memory listed as future work; what’s the current status? Is anyone looking at this? It’s something that I would be interested to take a look at if not (although don’t take that as an actual commitment yet!). - My understanding is that as of v6.0, at least, XFS was the only FS supporting large folios? Has that picture changed? Is there any likelihood of seeing ext4 and f2fs support anytime soon? - Matthew mentioned in the talk that he had data showing memory fragmentation becoming less of an issue as more users we allocating large folios. Is that data or the experimental approach public? Thanks, Ryan
