On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:52:16PM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 1:42 PM Chih-En Lin <shiyn.lin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:30:26AM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote: > > > > > The thing with THP is, that during fork(), we always allocate a backup PTE > > > > > table, to be able to PTE-map the THP whenever we have to. Otherwise we'd > > > > > have to eventually fail some operations we don't want to fail -- similar to > > > > > the case where break_cow_pte() could fail now due to -ENOMEM although we > > > > > really don't want to fail (e.g., change_pte_range() ). > > > > > > > > > > I always considered that wasteful, because in many scenarios, we'll never > > > > > ever split a THP and possibly waste memory. > > > > > > > > > > Optimizing that for THP (e.g., don't always allocate backup THP, have some > > > > > global allocation backup pool for splits + refill when close-to-empty) might > > > > > provide similar fork() improvements, both in speed and memory consumption > > > > > when it comes to anonymous memory. > > > > > > > > When collapsing huge pages, do/can they reuse those PTEs for backup? > > > > So, we don't have to allocate the PTE or maintain the pool. > > > > > > It might not work for all pages, as collapsing pages might have had > > > holes in the user page table, and there were no PTE tables. > > > > So if there have holes in the user page table, after we doing the > > collapsing and then splitting. Do those holes be filled? Assume it is, > > then, I think it's the reason why it's not work for all the pages. > > > > But, after those operations, Will the user get the additional and > > unexpected memory (which is from the huge page filling)? > > Yes, more memory is going to be allocated for a process in such THP > collapse case. This is similar to madvise huge pages, and touching the > first byte may allocate 2M. Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, It seems like the reuse case can't work for all the pages. Thanks, Chih-En Lin