> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:54 PM John Stultz <jstultz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 12:31 AM Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Using order 4 pages would be helpful for many IOMMUs, but it could spend > > > > > quite much time in page allocation perspective. > > > > > > > > > > The order 4 allocation with __GFP_RECLAIM may spend much time in > > > > > reclaim and compation logic. __GFP_NORETRY also may affect. These cause > > > > > unpredictable delay. > > > > > > > > > > To get reasonable allocation speed from dma-buf system heap, use > > > > > HIGH_ORDER_GFP for order 4 to avoid reclaim. > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this! > > > The case where the allocation gets stuck behind reclaim under pressure > > > does sound undesirable, but I'd be a bit hesitant to tweak numbers > > > that have been used for a long while (going back to ion) without a bit > > > more data. > > > > > > It might be good to also better understand the tradeoff of potential > > > on-going impact to performance from using low order pages when the > > > buffer is used. Do you have any details like or tests that you could > > > share to help ensure this won't impact other users? > > > > > > TJ: Do you have any additional thoughts on this? > > > > > I don't have any data on how often we hit reclaim for mid order > > allocations. That would be interesting to know. However the 70th > > percentile of system-wide buffer sizes while running the camera on my > > phone is still only 1 page, so it looks like this change would affect > > a subset of use-cases. > > > > Wouldn't this change make it less likely to get an order 4 allocation > > (under memory pressure)? The commit message makes me think the goal of > > the change is to get more of them. > > Hello John Stultz > > I've been waiting for your next reply. > > With my commit, we may gather less number of order 4 pages and fill the > requested size with more number of order 0 pages. I think, howerver, stable > allocation speed is quite important so that corresponding user space > context can move on within a specific time. > > Not only compaction but reclaim also, I think, would be invoked more if the > __GFP_RECLAIM is added on order 4. I expect the reclaim could be decreased > if we move to order 0. > Additionally I'd like to say the old legacy ion system heap also used the __GFP_RECLAIM only for order 8, not for order 4. drivers/staging/android/ion/ion_system_heap.c static gfp_t high_order_gfp_flags = (GFP_HIGHUSER | __GFP_ZERO | __GFP_NOWARN | __GFP_NORETRY) & ~__GFP_RECLAIM; static gfp_t low_order_gfp_flags = GFP_HIGHUSER | __GFP_ZERO; static const unsigned int orders[] = {8, 4, 0}; static int ion_system_heap_create_pools(struct ion_page_pool **pools) { int i; for (i = 0; i < NUM_ORDERS; i++) { struct ion_page_pool *pool; gfp_t gfp_flags = low_order_gfp_flags; if (orders[i] > 4) gfp_flags = high_order_gfp_flags; > Thank you > Jaewon Kim > > > > > Actually with the low order being 0, I don't think __GFP_COMP makes > > sense in LOW_ORDER_GFP. But I guess that flag isn't harmful there. > > > > > thanks > > > -john