Hi Tomasz, David, On 11/8/22 05:45, Tomasz Figa wrote: > Hi David, > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 1:19 AM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> FOLL_FORCE is really only for debugger access. According to commit >> 707947247e95 ("media: videobuf2-vmalloc: get_userptr: buffers are always >> writable"), the pinned pages are always writable. > > Actually that patch is only a workaround to temporarily disable > support for read-only pages as they seemed to suffer from some > corruption issues in the retrieved user pages. We expect to support > read-only pages as hardware input after. That said, FOLL_FORCE doesn't > sound like the right thing even in that case, but I don't know the > background behind it being added here in the first place. +Hans > Verkuil +Marek Szyprowski do you happen to remember anything about it? I tracked the use of 'force' all the way back to the first git commit (2.6.12-rc1) in the very old video-buf.c. So it is very, very old and the reason is lost in the mists of time. I'm not sure if the 'force' argument of get_user_pages() at that time even meant the same as FOLL_FORCE today. From what I can tell it has just been faithfully used ever since, but I have my doubt that anyone understands the reason behind it since it was never explained. Looking at this old LWN article https://lwn.net/Articles/28548/ suggests that it might be related to calling get_user_pages for write buffers (non-zero write argument) where you also want to be able to read from the buffer. That is certainly something that some drivers need to do post-capture fixups. But 'force' was also always set for read buffers, and I don't know if that was something that was actually needed, or just laziness. I assume that removing FOLL_FORCE from 'FOLL_FORCE|FOLL_WRITE' will still allow drivers to read from the buffer? Regards, Hans > > Best regards, > Tomasz > >> >> FOLL_FORCE in this case seems to be a legacy leftover. Let's just remove >> it. >> >> Cc: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> >> --- >> drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c | 2 +- >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >> >> diff --git a/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c b/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c >> index 542dde9d2609..062e98148c53 100644 >> --- a/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c >> +++ b/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c >> @@ -50,7 +50,7 @@ int get_vaddr_frames(unsigned long start, unsigned int nr_frames, >> start = untagged_addr(start); >> >> ret = pin_user_pages_fast(start, nr_frames, >> - FOLL_FORCE | FOLL_WRITE | FOLL_LONGTERM, >> + FOLL_WRITE | FOLL_LONGTERM, >> (struct page **)(vec->ptrs)); >> if (ret > 0) { >> vec->got_ref = true; >> -- >> 2.38.1 >>