Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: changes to split_huge_page() to free zero filled tail pages

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On Oct 24, 2022, at 11:21 PM, Ning Zhang <ningzhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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在 2022/10/20 02:48, Alex Zhu (Kernel) 写道:


On Oct 18, 2022, at 10:12 PM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 9:42 PM <alexlzhu@xxxxxx> wrote:

From: Alexander Zhu <alexlzhu@xxxxxx>

Currently, when /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled=always is set
there are a large number of transparent hugepages that are almost entirely
zero filled.  This is mentioned in a number of previous patchsets
including:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210731063938.1391602-1-yuzhao@xxxxxxxxxx/
https://lore.kernel.org/all/
1635422215-99394-1-git-send-email-ningzhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/

Currently, split_huge_page() does not have a way to identify zero filled
pages within the THP. Thus these zero pages get remapped and continue to
create memory waste. In this patch, we identify and free tail pages that
are zero filled in split_huge_page(). In this way, we avoid mapping these
pages back into page table entries and can free up unused memory within
THPs. This is based off the previously mentioned patchset by Yu Zhao.

Hi Alex,

Generally the process [1] to follow is that you keep my patches
separate from yours, rather than squash them into one, e.g., [2].

[1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/cover.1665568707.git.christophe.leroy@xxxxxxxxxx/

Also it's a courtesy to cc Ning, since his approach is (very) similar
to yours. Naturally he would wonder if you are reinventing the wheel,
so you'd have to address it in your cover letter.

Sorry about that. Will cc Ning as well in future iterations. I will split out the second patch into a few patches as well. 

This patchset differs from Ning's RFC in that we make use of list_lru and a shrinker, as discussed previously: 

The approach is different, but we are fundamentally still cleaning up underutilized THPs (contain a large number of zero pages). 

I have used a shrinker in previous version (see https://gitee.com/anolis/cloud-kernel/commit/62f8852885cc7f23063886d36fd36d94b48d3982) .

But the shrinker has a problem that it can't control the split number accurately. For example, I only want to split two THPs to avoid OOM, but shrinker may split many THPs. 

I was not able to open the link, but what kind of algorithm did you use to determine the split number? We are currently looking into how we can control the number of THPs split based off memory waste in THPs. 


However, we chose to free anonymous zero tail pages whenever they are
encountered instead of only on reclaim or migration.

What are cases that are not on reclaim or migration?

It would be any case where split_huge_page is called on anonymous memory. split_huge_page is also called from KSM and madvise. It can also be called from debugfs, which is what the self test relies on. We thought this implementation would be more generic. As far as I can tell there is no reason to keep zero pages around in anonymous THPs that have been split. 

We also handled remapping to a shared zero page on userfaultfd in a previous iteration. That is the only use case I am aware of where we do not want to zap the zero pages. 

As I've explained off the mailing list, it's likely a bug if you
really have one. And I don't think you do. I'm currently under the
impression that you have a slab shrinker, and slab shrinkers are on
the reclaim path.

Thanks.

This shrinker is not only for slabs. It’s for all anonymous THPs in physical memory. That’s why we needed to add list_lru_add_page and list_lru_delete_page as well, as list_lru_add/delete assumes slab objects. 
 





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