On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 10:15:51AM -0700, Andrei Vagin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 08:33:20AM +0300, Alexey Izbyshev wrote: > > > > > > That is something to be double checked. > > > > > > I can't see where it would make sense to unshare a time namespace and > > > then call exec, instead of calling exit. So I suspect we can just > > > change this behavior and no one will notice. > > > > > One can imagine a helper binary that calls unshare, forks some children in > > new namespaces, and then calls exec to hand off actual work to another > > binary (which might not expect being in the new time namespace). I'm purely > > theorizing here, however. Keeping a special case for vfork() based only on > > FUD is likely a net negative, so it'd be nice to hear actual time namespace > > users speak up, and switch to the solution you suggested if they don't care. > > I can speak for one tool that uses time namespaces for the right > reasons. It is CRIU. When a process is restored, the monotonic and > boottime clocks have to be adjusted to match old values. It is for what > the timens was designed for. These changes doesn't affect CRIU. > > Honestly, I haven't heard about other users of timens yet. I don't take > into account tools like unshare. LXC/LXD does unshare(CLONE_NEWTIME) // write offsets to /proc/self/timens_offsets timens_fd = open("/proc/self/ns/time_for_children", O_RDONLY | O_CLOEXEC) setns(timens_fd, CLONE_NEWTIME) exec(payload) so I agree don't change the uapi, please. But as you can see what we do is basically emulating changing time namespace during exec via the setns() prior to the exec call.