On 8/28/22 20:07, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 6:56 PM Dave Young <dyoung@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> John mentioned PANIC_ON(). >> >> I would vote for PANIC_ON(), it sounds like a good idea, because >> BUG_ON() is not obvious and, PANIC_ON() can alert the code author that >> this will cause a kernel panic and one will be more careful before >> using it. > > People, NO. > > We're trying to get rid of BUG_ON() because it kills the machine. > > Not replace it with another bogus thing that kills a machine. OK, this guidance, and the write-up that follows it, is all very clear, except for one point... > > So no PANIC_ON(). We used to have "panic()" many many years ago, we > got rid of it. We're not re-introducing it. ...here. I count ~1000 calls to panic() in today's kernel, to a function in kernel/panic.c that shows no hint of being removed, nor even deprecated. $ git grep -nw panic\( | wc -l 1321 Could you please clarify that point? (I'm not trying to debate policy, but rather, to figure out what we should write in the documentation of the policy.) thanks, -- John Hubbard NVIDIA