On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 09:40:11PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: > On 10.08.22 21:29, Peter Xu wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 11:37:13AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: > >> On 09.08.22 00:08, Peter Xu wrote: > >>> On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 04:21:39PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 06:25:21PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: > >>>>>>> Relying on VM_SHARED to detect MAP_PRIVATE vs. MAP_SHARED is > >>>>>>> unfortunately wrong. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you're curious, take a look at f83a275dbc5c ("mm: account for > >>>>>>> MAP_SHARED mappings using VM_MAYSHARE and not VM_SHARED in hugetlbfs") > >>>>>>> and mmap() code. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Long story short: if the file is read-only, we only have VM_MAYSHARE but > >>>>>>> not VM_SHARED (and consequently also not VM_MAYWRITE). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To ask in another way: if file is RO but mapped RW (mmap() will have > >>>>>> VM_SHARED cleared but VM_MAYSHARE set), then if we check VM_MAYSHARE here > >>>>>> won't we grant write bit errornously while we shouldn't? As the user > >>>>>> doesn't really have write permission to the file. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thus the VM_WRITE check. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> I wonder if we should just do it cleanly and introduce the maybe_mkwrite > >>>>> semantics here as well. Then there is no need for additional VM_WRITE > >>>>> checks and hugetlb will work just like !hugetlb. > >>>> > >>>> Hmm yeah I think the VM_MAYSHARE check is correct, since we'll need to fail > >>>> the cases where MAYSHARE && !SHARE - we used to silently let it pass. > >>> > >>> Sorry I think this is a wrong statement I made.. IIUC we'll fail correctly > >>> with/without the patch on any write to hugetlb RO regions. > >>> > >>> Then I just don't see a difference on checking VM_SHARED or VM_MAYSHARE > >>> here, it's just that VM_MAYSHARE check should work too like VM_SHARED so I > >>> don't see a problem. > >>> > >>> It also means I can't think of any valid case of having VM_WRITE when > >>> reaching here, then the WARN_ON_ONCE() is okay but maybe also redundant. > >>> Using maybe_mkwrite() seems misleading to me if FOLL_FORCE not ready for > >>> hugetlbfs after all. > >>> > >> > >> The main reason we'd have it would be to scream out lout and fail > >> gracefully if someone would -- for example -- use it for something like > >> FOLL_FORCE. > > > > Having that WARN_ON_ONCE() is okay to me, but just to double check we're on > > the same page: why there's concern on using FOLL_FORCE? IIUC we're talking > > about shared mappings here, then no FOLL_FORCE possible at all? IOW, > > "!is_cow_mapping()" should fail in check_vma_flags() already. > > This code path also covers the anon case. But this specific warning is under the VM_MAYSHARE if clause just added in this patch? My understanding is any FOLL_FORCE will always constantly fail before this patch, and it should keep failing as usual and I don't see any case it'll be failing at the warn_on_once here. So again, I'm fine with having the warning, but I just want to make sure what you want to capture is what you expected.. > > > > The other thing is I'm wondering whether patch 2 should be postponed anyway > > so that we can wait for a full resolution of the problem from Mike. > > To make the code more robust and avoid any other such surprises I prefer > to have this in rather earlier than later. > > As the commit says "Let's add a safety net ..." Sure, no strong opinion. I'll leave that to Mike. Thanks, -- Peter Xu