On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 04:38:55PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2022, Sean Christopherson wrote: > > I think we should avoid UNMAPPABLE even on the KVM side of things for the core > > memslots functionality and instead be very literal, e.g. > > > > KVM_HAS_FD_BASED_MEMSLOTS > > KVM_MEM_FD_VALID > > > > We'll still need KVM_HAS_USER_UNMAPPABLE_MEMORY, but it won't be tied directly to > > the memslot. Decoupling the two thingis will require a bit of extra work, but the > > code impact should be quite small, e.g. explicitly query and propagate > > MEMFILE_F_USER_INACCESSIBLE to kvm_memory_slot to track if a memslot can be private. > > And unless I'm missing something, it won't require an additional memslot flag. > > The biggest oddity (if we don't also add KVM_MEM_PRIVATE) is that KVM would > > effectively ignore the hva for fd-based memslots for VM types that don't support > > private memory, i.e. userspace can't opt out of using the fd-based backing, but that > > doesn't seem like a deal breaker. I actually love this idea. I don't mind adding extra code for potential usage other than confidential VMs if we can have a workable solution for it. > > Hrm, but basing private memory on top of a generic FD_VALID would effectively require > shared memory to use hva-based memslots for confidential VMs. That'd yield a very > weird API, e.g. non-confidential VMs could be backed entirely by fd-based memslots, > but confidential VMs would be forced to use hva-based memslots. It would work if we can treat userspace_addr as optional for KVM_MEM_FD_VALID, e.g. userspace can opt in to decide whether needing the mappable part or not for a regular VM and we can enforce KVM for confidential VMs. But the u64 type of userspace_addr doesn't allow us to express a 'null' value so sounds like we will end up needing another flag anyway. In concept, we could have three cofigurations here: 1. hva-only: without any flag and use userspace_addr; 2. fd-only: another new flag is needed and use fd/offset; 3. hva/fd mixed: both userspace_addr and fd/offset is effective. KVM_MEM_PRIVATE is a subset of it for confidential VMs. Not sure regular VM also wants this. There is no direct relationship between unmappable and fd-based since even fd-based can also be mappable for regular VM? > > Ignore this idea for now. If there's an actual use case for generic fd-based memory > then we'll want a separate flag, fd, and offset, i.e. that support could be added > independent of KVM_MEM_PRIVATE. If we ignore this idea now (which I'm also fine), do you still think we need change KVM_MEM_PRIVATE to KVM_MEM_USER_UNMAPPBLE? Thanks, Chao