Re: [PATCH v5 1/9] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers

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On 6/8/22 9:25 PM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
Hello,

On Wed, Jun 08, 2022 at 10:11:31AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
On Fri, Jun 03, 2022 at 07:12:29PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
@@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
+#ifndef _LINUX_MEMORY_TIERS_H
+#define _LINUX_MEMORY_TIERS_H
+
+#ifdef CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY
+
+#define MEMORY_TIER_HBM_GPU	0
+#define MEMORY_TIER_DRAM	1
+#define MEMORY_TIER_PMEM	2
+
+#define MEMORY_RANK_HBM_GPU	300
+#define MEMORY_RANK_DRAM	200
+#define MEMORY_RANK_PMEM	100
+
+#define DEFAULT_MEMORY_TIER	MEMORY_TIER_DRAM
+#define MAX_MEMORY_TIERS  3

I understand the names are somewhat arbitrary, and the tier ID space
can be expanded down the line by bumping MAX_MEMORY_TIERS.

But starting out with a packed ID space can get quite awkward for
users when new tiers - especially intermediate tiers - show up in
existing configurations. I mentioned in the other email that DRAM !=
DRAM, so new tiers seem inevitable already.

It could make sense to start with a bigger address space and spread
out the list of kernel default tiers a bit within it:

MEMORY_TIER_GPU		0
MEMORY_TIER_DRAM	10
MEMORY_TIER_PMEM	20

Forgive me if I'm asking a question that has been answered. I went
back to earlier threads and couldn't work it out - maybe there were
some off-list discussions? Anyway...

Why is there a distinction between tier ID and rank? I undestand that
rank was added because tier IDs were too few. But if rank determines
ordering, what is the use of a separate tier ID? IOW, why not make the
tier ID space wider and have the kernel pick a few spread out defaults
based on known hardware, with plenty of headroom to be future proof.

   $ ls tiers
   100				# DEFAULT_TIER
   $ cat tiers/100/nodelist
   0-1				# conventional numa nodes

   <pmem is onlined>

   $ grep . tiers/*/nodelist
   tiers/100/nodelist:0-1	# conventional numa
   tiers/200/nodelist:2		# pmem

   $ grep . nodes/*/tier
   nodes/0/tier:100
   nodes/1/tier:100
   nodes/2/tier:200

   <unknown device is online as node 3, defaults to 100>

   $ grep . tiers/*/nodelist
   tiers/100/nodelist:0-1,3
   tiers/200/nodelist:2

   $ echo 300 >nodes/3/tier
   $ grep . tiers/*/nodelist
   tiers/100/nodelist:0-1
   tiers/200/nodelist:2
   tiers/300/nodelist:3

   $ echo 200 >nodes/3/tier
   $ grep . tiers/*/nodelist
   tiers/100/nodelist:0-1	
   tiers/200/nodelist:2-3

etc.

tier ID is also used as device id memtier.dev.id. It was discussed that we would need the ability to change the rank value of a memory tier. If we make rank value same as tier ID or tier device id, we will not be able to support that.

-aneesh




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