On 5/25/22 23:36, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Because it used to be that stack depot users were fairly easy to
> figure out. It was all about pretty special debug options that enable
> a lot of very special code (KASAN and PAGE_OWNER - is there anything
> else?).
Some parts of DRM debugging and looks like also recently networking
through ref_tracker, which also seems to be debugging.
> Very clearly just debug builds.
>
> But this slab change means that now it's basically *always* enabled as
> an option, and that means that now it had better do sane things
> because it's enabled by default and not something that can easily be
> ignored any more.
>
> The kernel config phase is something I'm very sensitive to, because
> honestly, it's just about the worst part of building a kernel.
> Everything else is pretty easy. The kernel config is painful.
>
> That means that we should not ask insane questions - and asking what
> static size you want for a data structure that 99% of all people have
> absolutely _zero_ idea about or interest in is wrong.
Understood.
> So the problem here is two-fold:
>
> (a) it introduces a new compile-time question that isn't sane to ask
> a regular user, but is now exposed to regular users.
>
> (b) this by default uses 1MB of memory for a feature that didn't in
> the past, so now if you have small machines you need to make sure you
> make a special kernel config for them.
>
> And (a) happens unconditionally, while (b) is conditional. And it's
> now clear exactly what all triggers the actual allocation in (b).
>
> I _hope_ it's never triggered unless you actively enable slub debug,
> but at least from a quick grep it wasn't obvious.
>
> For example, if you happen to have rcutorture enabled, do you get the
> allocation then just because rcutorture uses
>
> kcp = kmem_cache_create("rcuscale", 136, 8, SLAB_STORE_USER, NULL);
>
> even if you have nothing else that would enable slaub debugging? It
> *looked* that way to me from a quick grep, but I could easily have
> missed something.
Yes, running rcutorture will trigger that stackdepot allocation, but as
that's in RCU debugging part of config, I considered it in the same
category as enabling slub debugging.
But yeah I realize it might become a problem if someone wants to run
rcutorture on m68k :/
> Linus
