On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 16:17 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 03:49:21PM +0800, ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-04-20 at 16:33 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 10:36:54AM -0700, Yang Shi wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 1:12 AM Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 07:09:53PM -0700, Yang Shi wrote: > > > > > > The swap devices are linked to per node priority lists, the swap device > > > > > > closer to the node has higher priority on that node's priority list. > > > > > > This is supposed to improve I/O latency, particularly for some fast > > > > > > devices. But the current code gets nid by calling numa_node_id() which > > > > > > actually returns the nid that the reclaimer is running on instead of the > > > > > > nid that the page belongs to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right. > > > > > > > > > > > Pass the page's nid dow to get_swap_pages() in order to pick up the > > > > > > right swap device. But it doesn't work for the swap slots cache which > > > > > > is per cpu. We could skip swap slots cache if the current node is not > > > > > > the page's node, but it may be overkilling. So keep using the current > > > > > > node's swap slots cache. The issue was found by visual code inspection > > > > > > so it is not sure how much improvement could be achieved due to lack of > > > > > > suitable testing device. But anyway the current code does violate the > > > > > > design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I intentionally used the reclaimer's nid because I think when swapping > > > > > out to a device, it is faster when the device is on the same node as > > > > > the cpu. > > > > > > > > OK, the offline discussion with Huang Ying showed the design was to > > > > have page's nid in order to achieve better I/O performance (more > > > > noticeable on faster devices) since the reclaimer may be running on a > > > > different node from the reclaimed page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I think I can make a test case where the workload allocates all > > > > > its memory on the remote node and its workingset memory is larger then > > > > > the available memory so swap is triggered, then we can see which way > > > > > achieves better performance. Sounds reasonable to you? > > > > > > > > Yeah, definitely, thank you so much. I don't have a fast enough device > > > > by hand to show the difference right now. If you could get some data > > > > it would be perfect. > > > > > > > > > > Failed to find a test box that has two NVMe disks attached to different > > > nodes and since Shanghai is locked down right now, we couldn't install > > > another NVMe on the box so I figured it might be OK to test on a box that > > > has a single NVMe attached to node 0 like this: > > > > > > 1) restrict the test processes to run on node 0 and allocate on node 1; > > > 2) restrict the test processes to run on node 1 and allocate on node 0. > > > > > > In case 1), the reclaimer's node id is the same as the swap device's so > > > it's the same as current behaviour and in case 2), the page's node id is > > > the same as the swap device's so it's what your patch proposed. > > > > > > The test I used is vm-scalability/case-swap-w-rand: > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/wfg/vm-scalability.git/tree/case-swap-w-seq > > > which spawns $nr_task processes and each will mmap $size and then > > > randomly write to that area. I set nr_task=32 and $size=4G, so a total > > > of 128G memory will be needed and I used memory.limit_in_bytes to > > > restrict the available memory to 64G, to make sure swap is triggered. > > > > > > The reason why cgroup is used is to avoid waking up the per-node kswapd > > > which can trigger swapping with reclaimer/page/swap device all having the > > > same node id. > > > > > > And I don't see a measuable difference from the result: > > > case1(using reclaimer's node id) vm-scalability.throughput: 10574 KB/s > > > case2(using page's node id) vm-scalability.throughput: 10567 KB/s > > > > > > My interpretation of the result is, when reclaiming a remote page, it > > > doesn't matter much which swap device to use if the swap device is a IO > > > device. > > > > > > Later Ying reminded me we have test box that has optane installed on > > > different nodes so I also tested there: Icelake 2 sockets server with 2 > > > optane installed on each node. I did the test there like this: > > > 1) restrict the test processes to run on node 0 and allocate on node 1 > > > and only swapon pmem0, which is the optane backed swap device on node 0; > > > 2) restrict the test processes to run on node 0 and allocate on node 1 > > > and only swapon pmem1, which is the optane backed swap device on node 1. > > > > > > So case 1) is current behaviour and case 2) is what your patch proposed. > > > > > > With the same test and the same nr_task/size, the result is: > > > case1(using reclaimer's node id) vm-scalability.throughput: 71033 KB/s > > > case2(using page's node id) vm-scalability.throughput: 58753 KB/s > > > > > > > The per-node swap device support is more about swap-in latency than > > swap-out throughput. I suspect the test case is more about swap-out > > throughput. perf profiling can show this. > > > > Can you elaborate the "perf profiling" part, like which perf metric can > show this? > Just `perf record`, `perf report` to show where the CPU cycles are spent with call graph information. Then you can find most CPU cycles are for swap out or swap in. Where is the bottleneck. > I checked the vmstat output. Initially, it's mostly swap out, then swap > in starts to be more and more, but swapout is always more than swapin. > > procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ------cpu----- -----timestamp----- > r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa st UTC > 20 0 0 259772032 8 2428796 0 0 2 0 365 74 1 1 98 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:37 > 4 0 0 259149824 8 2439084 0 0 0 0 148536 22298 1 3 96 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:38 > 35 0 0 236926192 1052 2572000 0 0 2163 2048 392940 3690 1 24 75 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:39 > 32 0 0 205170832 1052 2572280 0 0 0 0 193095 1280 2 33 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:40 > 40 0 136448 192211008 1052 2439412 268 133760 0 0 532052 3571 0 40 59 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:43 > 33 0 4224000 192182464 1052 2450936 130636 4211460 0 0 1145644 15600 1 33 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:44 > 32 0 6908708 192179408 1052 2460836 239456 2924392 0 0 863325 10731 1 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:45 > 33 0 9005036 192163936 1052 2469112 279200 2371924 0 0 739330 9635 1 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:46 > 32 0 10769408 192154864 1052 2476172 305516 2071440 0 0 673619 9044 1 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:47 > 32 0 12318720 192149344 1052 2482708 324312 1875224 0 0 627868 9404 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:48 > 33 0 13735796 192146752 1052 2488520 340684 1756308 0 0 601933 11815 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:44:49 > ... ... > 32 0 47465984 192000400 1052 2636472 456228 652756 0 0 335570 4359 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:11 > 33 0 47652352 191996784 1052 2637932 437368 622652 0 0 328532 3627 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:12 > 33 0 47830272 191998800 1052 2639296 428224 607516 0 0 325651 3847 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:13 > 34 0 48014492 192001504 1052 2640596 441592 625308 0 0 329752 4199 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:14 > 32 0 48200960 191996240 1052 2642148 458724 645744 0 0 333806 3988 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:15 > 45 0 48379904 191991904 1052 2643576 442948 621268 0 0 329070 4529 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:16 > 33 0 48557504 191996960 1052 2644812 444420 621948 0 0 328916 7249 1 35 64 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:17 > 33 0 48729564 191995744 1052 2646272 447396 619376 0 0 329126 4565 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:18 > 32 0 48959268 191989024 1052 2647828 595888 825480 0 0 368714 8096 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:19 > 32 0 49242368 191990304 1052 2650036 746212 1028524 0 0 411140 10949 0 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:20 > 32 0 49520792 191984080 1052 2652372 758208 1037236 0 0 415505 10094 0 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:21 > 32 0 49799168 191994240 1052 2654724 767236 1046964 0 0 418405 10726 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:22 > 32 0 50067712 191989104 1052 2657092 759192 1028600 0 0 415356 10173 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:23 > 33 0 50333440 191980320 1052 2659332 750764 1014732 0 0 412144 9197 0 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:24 > 32 0 50584052 191973824 1052 2661576 737720 988964 0 0 406620 8752 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:25 > 32 0 50816000 191976080 1052 2663660 689248 921108 0 0 391782 8517 0 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:26 > 32 0 51036416 191970464 1052 2665612 668004 888220 0 0 385112 7310 1 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:27 > 32 0 51256576 191962224 1052 2667536 678464 897872 0 0 388494 12547 0 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:28 > 33 0 51464680 191966304 1052 2669472 654540 862720 0 0 380869 7069 1 34 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:29 > 32 0 51597232 191971840 1052 2670848 419772 552324 0 0 314325 4029 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:30 > 33 0 51722448 191969456 1052 2672072 409300 535892 0 0 310720 4014 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:31 > 32 0 51850496 191963472 1052 2673236 413160 541076 0 0 311652 3583 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:32 > 32 0 51978872 191968208 1052 2674452 415844 543464 0 0 312411 3579 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:33 > 32 0 52105724 191974640 1052 2675616 418104 545728 0 0 312731 4183 1 35 65 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:34 > 34 0 52232928 191964336 1052 2676964 426200 552956 0 0 314230 3834 1 35 64 0 0 2022-04-19 11:46:35 > > The full vmstat is attached. > > > For swap-in latency, we can use pmbench, which can output latency > > information. > > > > OK, I'll give pmbench a run, thanks for the suggestion. Better to construct a senario with more swapin than swapout. For example, start a memory eater, then kill it later. Best Regards, Huang, Ying