On 2022/3/1 14:47, Huang, Ying wrote: > Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> On 2022/2/21 16:45, Huang Ying wrote: >>> With the advent of various new memory types, some machines will have >>> multiple types of memory, e.g. DRAM and PMEM (persistent memory). The >>> memory subsystem of these machines can be called memory tiering >>> system, because the performance of the different types of memory are >>> usually different. >>> >>> In such system, because of the memory accessing pattern changing etc, >>> some pages in the slow memory may become hot globally. So in this >>> patch, the NUMA balancing mechanism is enhanced to optimize the page >>> placement among the different memory types according to hot/cold >>> dynamically. >>> >>> In a typical memory tiering system, there are CPUs, fast memory and >>> slow memory in each physical NUMA node. The CPUs and the fast memory >>> will be put in one logical node (called fast memory node), while the >>> slow memory will be put in another (faked) logical node (called slow >>> memory node). That is, the fast memory is regarded as local while the >>> slow memory is regarded as remote. So it's possible for the recently >>> accessed pages in the slow memory node to be promoted to the fast >>> memory node via the existing NUMA balancing mechanism. >>> >>> The original NUMA balancing mechanism will stop to migrate pages if >>> the free memory of the target node becomes below the high watermark. >>> This is a reasonable policy if there's only one memory type. But this >>> makes the original NUMA balancing mechanism almost do not work to >>> optimize page placement among different memory types. Details are as >>> follows. >>> >>> It's the common cases that the working-set size of the workload is >>> larger than the size of the fast memory nodes. Otherwise, it's >>> unnecessary to use the slow memory at all. So, there are almost >>> always no enough free pages in the fast memory nodes, so that the >>> globally hot pages in the slow memory node cannot be promoted to the >>> fast memory node. To solve the issue, we have 2 choices as follows, >>> >>> a. Ignore the free pages watermark checking when promoting hot pages >>> from the slow memory node to the fast memory node. This will >>> create some memory pressure in the fast memory node, thus trigger >>> the memory reclaiming. So that, the cold pages in the fast memory >>> node will be demoted to the slow memory node. >>> >>> b. Make kswapd of the fast memory node to reclaim pages until the free >>> pages are a little more than the high watermark (named as promo >>> watermark). Then, if the free pages of the fast memory node reaches >>> high watermark, and some hot pages need to be promoted, kswapd of the >>> fast memory node will be waken up to demote more cold pages in the >>> fast memory node to the slow memory node. This will free some extra >>> space in the fast memory node, so the hot pages in the slow memory >>> node can be promoted to the fast memory node. >>> >>> The choice "a" may create high memory pressure in the fast memory >>> node. If the memory pressure of the workload is high, the memory >>> pressure may become so high that the memory allocation latency of the >>> workload is influenced, e.g. the direct reclaiming may be triggered. >>> >>> The choice "b" works much better at this aspect. If the memory >>> pressure of the workload is high, the hot pages promotion will stop >>> earlier because its allocation watermark is higher than that of the >> >> Many thanks for your path. The patch looks good to me but I have a question. >> WMARK_PROMO is only used inside pgdat_balanced when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING >> is set. So its allocation watermark seems to be as same as the normal memory >> allocation. How should I understand the above sentence? Am I miss something? > > Before allocating pages for promotion, the watermark of the fast node > will be checked (please refer to migrate_balanced_pgdat()). If the > watermark is going to be lower than the high watermark, promotion will > abort. I see. The hot pages promotion watermark is "nr_migrate_pages" more than that of the normal memory allocation not "_watermark[WMARK_PROMO] - _watermark[WMARK_HIGH]". Many thanks for your kindly explanation. :) > > Best Regards, > Huang, Ying > . >