Re: userfaultfd: usability issue due to lack of UFFD events ordering

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On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 11:48:27AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 31.01.22 11:42, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > Hi Nadav,
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 10:23:55PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >> Using userfautlfd and looking at the kernel code, I encountered a usability
> >> issue that complicates userspace UFFD-monitor implementation. I obviosuly
> >> might be wrong, so I would appreciate a (polite?) feedback. I do have a
> >> userspace workaround, but I thought it is worthy to share and to hear your
> >> opinion, as well as feedback from other UFFD users.
> >>
> >> The issue I encountered regards the ordering of UFFD events tbat might not
> >> reflect the actual order in which events took place.
> >>
> >> In more detail, UFFD events (e.g., unmap, fork) are not ordered against
> >> themselves [*]. The mm-lock is dropped before notifying the userspace
> >> UFFD-monitor, and therefore there is no guarantee as to whether the order of
> >> the events actually reflects the order in which the events took place.
> >> This can prevent a UFFD-monitor from using the events to track which
> >> ranges are mapped. Specifically, UFFD_EVENT_FORK message and a
> >> UFFD_EVENT_UNMAP message (which reflects unmap in the parent process) can
> >> be reordered, if the events are triggered by two different threads. In
> >> this case the UFFD-monitor cannot figure from the events whether the
> >> child process has the unmapped memory range still mapped (because fork
> >> happened first) or not.
> > 
> > Yeah, it seems that something like this is possible:
> > 
> > 
> > fork()					munmap()
> > 	mmap_write_unlock();
> > 						mmap_write_lock_killable();
> > 						do_things();
> > 						mmap_{read,write}_unlock();
> > 						userfaultfd_unmap_complete();
> > 	dup_userfaultfd_complete();
> > 
> 
> I was thinking about other possible races, e.g., MADV_DONTNEED/MADV_FREE
> racing with UFFD_EVENT_PAGEFAULT -- where we only hold the mmap_lock in
> read mode. But not sure if they apply.

The userspace can live with these, at least for uffd missing page faults.
If the monitor will try to resolve a page fault for a removed area, the
errno from UFFDIO_COPY/ZERO can be used to detect such races.

> The fork() vs. munmap() is somewhat "obviously problematic" :)

Nothing funny about it ;-)

> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> David / dhildenb
> 
> 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.




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