On Tue 07-12-21 16:09:39, David Hildenbrand wrote: > On 07.12.21 14:23, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Tue 07-12-21 13:28:31, David Hildenbrand wrote: > > [...] > >> But maybe I am missing something important regarding online vs. offline > >> nodes that your patch changes? > > > > I am relying on alloc_node_data setting the node online. But if we are > > to change the call to arch_alloc_node_data then the patch needs to be > > more involved. Here is what I have right now. If this happens to be the > > right way then there is some additional work to sync up with the hotplug > > code. > > > > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c > > index c5952749ad40..a296e934ad2f 100644 > > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c > > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c > > @@ -8032,8 +8032,23 @@ void __init free_area_init(unsigned long *max_zone_pfn) > > /* Initialise every node */ > > mminit_verify_pageflags_layout(); > > setup_nr_node_ids(); > > - for_each_online_node(nid) { > > - pg_data_t *pgdat = NODE_DATA(nid); > > + for_each_node(nid) { > > + pg_data_t *pgdat; > > + > > + if (!node_online(nid)) { > > + pr_warn("Node %d uninitialized by the platform. Please report with memory map.\n", nid); > > + pgdat = arch_alloc_nodedata(nid); > > + pgdat->per_cpu_nodestats = alloc_percpu(struct per_cpu_nodestat); > > + arch_refresh_nodedata(nid, pgdat); > > + node_set_online(nid); > > Setting all possible nodes online might result in quite some QE noice, > because all these nodes will then be visible in the sysfs and > try_offline_nodes() is essentially for the trash. I am not sure I follow. I believe sysfs will not get populate because I do not call register_one_node. You are right that try_offline_nodes will be reduce which is good imho. More changes will be possible (hopefully to drop some ugly code) on top of this change (or any other that achieves that there are no NULL pgdat for possible nodes). > I agree to prealloc the pgdat, I don't think we should actually set the > nodes online. Node onlining/offlining should be done when we do have > actual CPUs/memory populated. If we keep the offline/online node state notion we are not solving an important aspect of the problem - confusing api. Node states do not really correspond to logical states and that makes it really hard to wrap head around. I think we should completely drop for_each_online_node because that just doesn't mean anything without synchronization with hotplug. People who really need to iterate over all numa nodes should be using for_each_node and do not expect any surprises that the node doesn't exist. It is much more easier to think in scope of completely depleted numa node (and get ENOMEM when strictly requiring local node resources - e.g. via __GFP_THISNODE) than some special node without any memory that need a special treatment. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs