Marco Elver <elver@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 09:41, Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Marco Elver <elver@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >> > On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 02:44, Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> Marco Elver <elver@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >> >> >> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 08:44, Huang Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > [...] >> >> >> --- a/mm/rmap.c >> >> >> +++ b/mm/rmap.c >> >> >> @@ -633,7 +633,7 @@ static void set_tlb_ubc_flush_pending(struct mm_struct *mm, bool writable) >> >> >> * before the PTE is cleared. >> >> >> */ >> >> >> barrier(); >> >> >> - mm->tlb_flush_batched = true; >> >> >> + atomic_inc(&mm->tlb_flush_batched); >> >> > >> >> > The use of barrier() and atomic needs some clarification. >> >> >> >> There are some comments above barrier() to describe why it is needed. >> >> For atomic, because the type of mm->tlb_flush_batched is atomic_t, do we >> >> need extra clarification? >> > >> > Apologies, maybe I wasn't clear enough: the existing comment tells me >> > the clearing of PTE should never happen after tlb_flush_batched is >> > set, but only the compiler is considered. However, I become suspicious >> > when I see barrier() paired with an atomic. barrier() is purely a >> > compiler-barrier and does not prevent the CPU from reordering things. >> > atomic_inc() does not return anything and is therefore unordered per >> > Documentation/atomic_t.txt. >> > >> >> > Is there a >> >> > requirement that the CPU also doesn't reorder anything after this >> >> > atomic_inc() (which is unordered)? I.e. should this be >> >> > atomic_inc_return_release() and remove barrier()? >> >> >> >> We don't have an atomic_xx_acquire() to pair with this. So I guess we >> >> don't need atomic_inc_return_release()? >> > >> > You have 2 things stronger than unordered: atomic_read() which result >> > is used in a conditional branch, thus creating a control-dependency >> > ordering later dependent writes; and the atomic_cmpxchg() is fully >> > ordered. >> > >> > But before all that, I'd still want to understand what ordering >> > requirements you have. The current comments say only the compiler >> > needs taming, but does that mean we're fine with the CPU wildly >> > reordering things? >> >> Per my understanding, atomic_cmpxchg() is fully ordered, so we have >> strong ordering in flush_tlb_batched_pending(). And we use xchg() in >> ptep_get_and_clear() (at least for x86) which is called before >> set_tlb_ubc_flush_pending(). So we have strong ordering there too. >> >> So at least for x86, barrier() in set_tlb_ubc_flush_pending() appears >> unnecessary. Is it needed by other architectures? > > Hmm, this is not arch/ code -- this code needs to be portable. > atomic_t accessors provide arch-independent guarantees. But do the > other operations here provide any guarantees? If they don't, then I > think we have to assume unordered. Yes. The analysis is for x86 only. For other architectures, we need to make sure the order of ptep_get_and_clear(). But anyway, that should be another patch. This patch doesn't make the original ordering weaker. Best Regards, Huang, Ying