On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 04:11:46PM -0600, Rob Clark wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 02:46:47PM -0600, Rob Clark wrote: > >> I sort of preferred having the DMABUF shim because that lets you pass > >> a buffer around userspace without the receiving code knowing about a > >> device specific API. But the problem I eventually came around to: if > >> your GL stack (or some other userspace component) is batching up > >> commands before submission to kernel, the buffers you need to wait for > >> completion might not even be submitted yet. So from kernel > >> perspective they are "ready" for cpu access. Even though in fact they > >> are not in a consistent state from rendering perspective. I don't > >> really know a sane way to deal with that. Maybe the approach instead > >> should be a userspace level API (in libkms/libdrm?) to provide > >> abstraction for userspace access to buffers rather than dealing with > >> this at the kernel level. > > > > Well, there's a reason GL has an explicit flush and extensions for sync > > objects. It's to support such scenarios where the driver batches up gpu > > commands before actually submitting them. > > Hmm.. what about other non-GL APIs.. maybe vaapi/vdpau or similar? > (Or something that I haven't thought of.) They generally all have a concept of when they've actually commited the rendering to an X pixmap or egl image. Usually it's rather implicit, e.g. the driver will submit any outstanding batches before returning from any calls. -Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Mail: daniel@xxxxxxxx Mobile: +41 (0)79 365 57 48 -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/ Don't email: <a href