Back when we could fit all or most of the Maintainers plus interested developers in a single room, the question of how to make forward progress on something like Folios. These days, all of the interested parties wouldn't fit in a single room, which is why Maintainers summit focuses only on development process issues. However, this means that when we need to make a call about what needs to happen before Folios can be merged, we don't seem to have a good way to make that happen. And being a file system developer who is eagerly looking forward to what Folios will enable, I'm a bit biased in terms of wanting to see how we can break the logjam and move forward. So.... I have a proposal. We could potentially schedule a Wither Folios LPC BOF during one of the time slots on Friday when the Maintainers Summit is taking place, and we arrange to have all of the Maintainers switch over to the LPC BOF room. If enough of the various stakeholders for Folios are going to be attending LPC or Maintainer's Summit, and folks (especially Linus, who ultiamtely needs to make the final decision), this is something we could do. Would this be helpful? (Or Linus could pull either the folio or pageset branch, and make this proposal obsolete, which would be great. :-) - Ted