On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:31:57AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 10:55:01PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > > This is the start of the stable review cycle for the 5.13.2 release. > > > There are 800 patches in this series, all will be posted as a response > > > to this one. If anyone has any issues with these being applied, please > > > let me know. > > > > > > Responses should be made by Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:02:46 +0000. > > > Anything received after that time might be too late. > > > > > > The whole patch series can be found in one patch at: > > > https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v5.x/stable-review/patch-5.13.2-rc1.gz > > > or in the git tree and branch at: > > > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable-rc.git linux-5.13.y > > > and the diffstat can be found below. > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > greg k-h > > > > > > ------------- > > > Pseudo-Shortlog of commits: > > > > > > Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Linux 5.13.2-rc1 > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > Sorry to be making waves, but please, what's up with the 5.13.2-rc, > > 5.12.17-rc, 5.10.50-rc, 5.4.132-rc stable release candidates? > > They show the problem that we currently have where maintainers wait at > the end of the -rc cycle and keep valid fixes from being sent to Linus. > They "bunch up" and come out only in -rc1 and so the first few stable > releases after -rc1 comes out is huge. It's been happening for the past > few years and only getting worse. These stable releases are proof of > that, the 5.13.2-rc release was the largest we have ever done and it > broke one of my scripts because of it :( > > I know personally I do this for my subsystems, having fixes that are > trivial things batch up for -rc1 just because they are generally not > worth getting into -final. But that is not the case with many other > subsystems as you can see by these huge patch sequences. Hm, maybe it really isn't a "problem" here, as the % overall is still quite low of patches with fixes: and cc: stable on them compared to the overall number of commits going in for -rc1 vs. later -rcX releases. So it's just what it is, large numbers of changes happening, small % of them are needed to be backported. If someone wanted to, odds are they could get a master's thesis out of analyzing all of this stuff :) thanks, greg k-h