On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 05:52:57PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: > On 14.04.21 17:27, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 17:14, David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On 07.04.21 19:26, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > > > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > The struct pages representing a reserved memory region are initialized > > > > using reserve_bootmem_range() function. This function is called for each > > > > reserved region just before the memory is freed from memblock to the buddy > > > > page allocator. > > > > > > > > The struct pages for MEMBLOCK_NOMAP regions are kept with the default > > > > values set by the memory map initialization which makes it necessary to > > > > have a special treatment for such pages in pfn_valid() and > > > > pfn_valid_within(). > > > > > > I assume these pages are never given to the buddy, because we don't have > > > a direct mapping. So to the kernel, it's essentially just like a memory > > > hole with benefits. > > > > > > I can spot that we want to export such memory like any special memory > > > thingy/hole in /proc/iomem -- "reserved", which makes sense. > > > > > > I would assume that MEMBLOCK_NOMAP is a special type of *reserved* > > > memory. IOW, that for_each_reserved_mem_range() should already succeed > > > on these as well -- we should mark anything that is MEMBLOCK_NOMAP > > > implicitly as reserved. Or are there valid reasons not to do so? What > > > can anyone do with that memory? > > > > > > I assume they are pretty much useless for the kernel, right? Like other > > > reserved memory ranges. > > > > > > > On ARM, we need to know whether any physical regions that do not > > contain system memory contain something with device semantics or not. > > One of the examples is ACPI tables: these are in reserved memory, and > > so they are not covered by the linear region. However, when the ACPI > > core ioremap()s an arbitrary memory region, we don't know whether it > > is mapping a memory region or a device region unless we keep track of > > this in some way. (Device mappings require device attributes, but > > firmware tables require memory attributes, as they might be accessed > > using misaligned reads) > > Using generically sounding NOMAP ("don't create direct mapping") to identify > device regions feels like a hack. I know, it was introduced just for that > purpose. > > Looking at memblock_mark_nomap(), we consider "device regions" > > 1) ACPI tables > > 2) VIDEO_TYPE_EFI memory > > 3) some device-tree regions in of/fdt.c > > > IIUC, right now we end up creating a memmap for this NOMAP memory, but hide > it away in pfn_valid(). This patch set at least fixes that. Currently we have memmap entries with struct page set to defaults for the NOMAP memory. AFAIU hiding them in pfn_valid()/pfn_valid_within() was a solution to failures in pfn walkers that presumed that for a pfn_valid() there will be a struct page that really reflects the state of that page. > Assuming these pages are never mapped to user space via the struct page > (which better be the case), we could further use a new pagetype to mark > these pages in a special way, such that we can identify them directly via > pfn_to_page(). Not sure we really need a new pagetype here, PG_Reserved seems to be quite enough to say "don't touch this". I generally agree that we could make PG_Reserved a PageType and then have several sub-types for reserved memory. This definitely will add clarity but I'm not sure that this justifies amount of churn and effort required to audit uses of PageResrved(). > Then, we could mostly avoid having to query memblock at runtime to figure > out that this is special memory. This would obviously be an extension to > this series. Just a thought. Stop pushing memblock out of kernel! ;-) Now, seriously, we can minimize memblock involvement in run-time and this series in yet another step in that direction. -- Sincerely yours, Mike.