Re: AMD SEV-SNP/Intel TDX: validation of memory pages

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> On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 2/12/21 8:45 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> But you're right, if a HV injects #VE in the syscall gap and gets a
>>> concurrent CPU to 'fix' the exception frame (which then lives on the
>>> user stack) the handler might never know it went ga-ga.
>>> 
>>> Is this something the TDX thread model covers? A malicous HV and a TDX
>>> guest co-operating to bring down the guest kernel.
>> 
>> I'll say this: The current TDX guest code that Sathya posted is
>> predicated on an assumption that an malicious HV can not inject a #VE in
>> the syscall gap, or any of the other sensitive paths.
>> 
>> A #VE in the syscall gap is just as fatal as a #PF or #GP would be
>> there.  If TDX can't provide guarantees to the guest that a #VE won't
>> happen there, then TDX is broken, or the kernel implementation is broken.
>> 
>> If anyone knows of any way for a HV to inject #VE in the syscall gap,
>> please speak up.  Better to know now.
> 
> Removing and reinserting the SYSCALL page (or any other page touched in the
> SYSCALL gap) will result in a #VE, as TDX behavior is to generate a #VE on an
> access to an unaccepated.
> 
> Andy L pointed out this conundrum a while back.  My hack idea to "solve" this
> was to add an API to the TDX-Module that would allow the guest kernel to define
> a set of GPAs that must never #VE.
> 
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200825171903.GA20660@sjchrist-ice

Is the TDX module involved in #HV delivery?  Just how much cleverness is possible without silicon changes?




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