On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:44 AM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 12.01.21 10:18, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:16 AM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>>>> Well, I would love to have no surprises either. So far there was not > >>>>> actual argument why the pmem reserved space cannot be fully initialized. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, I'm still hoping Dan can clarify that. > >>> > >>> Complexity and effective utility (once pfn_to_online_page() is fixed) > >>> are the roadblocks in my mind. The altmap is there to allow for PMEM > >>> capacity to be used as memmap space, so there would need to be code to > >>> break that circular dependency and allocate a memmap for the metadata > >>> space from DRAM and the rest of the memmap space for the data capacity > >>> from pmem itself. That memmap-for-pmem-metadata will still represent > >>> offline pages. So once pfn_to_online_page() is fixed, what pfn-walker > >>> is going to be doing pfn_to_page() on PMEM metadata? Secondly, there > >> > >> Assume I do > >> > >> pgmap = get_dev_pagemap(pfn, NULL); > >> if (pgmap) > >> return pfn_to_page(pfn); > >> return NULL; > >> > >> on a random pfn because I want to inspect ZONE_DEVICE PFNs. > > > > I keep getting hung up on the motivation to do random pfn inspection? > > > > The problems we have found to date have required different solutions. > > The KVM bug didn't use get_dev_pagemap() to inspect the pfn because it > > could rely on the fact that the page already had an elevated reference > > count. The get_user_pages() path only looks up ZONE_DEVICE pfns when > > it see {pte,pmd,pud}_devmap set in the page table entry. pfn walkers > > have been a problem, but with pfn_to_online_page() fixed what is the > > remaining motivation to inspect ZONE_DEVICE pfns? > > 1) Let's assume we want to implement zone shrinking > (remove_pfn_range_from_zone()->shrink_zone_span()) for ZONE_DEVICE at > some point. I don't expect that will ever be something the kernel will want to do given the association of pgmap to the lifetime of a given device configuration. The mechanism to mutate a ZONE_DEVICE mapping is unbind device, reconfigure device, bind device to establish a new ZONE_DEVICE mapping. > > A simple approach would be going via get_dev_pagemap(pfn, > NULL)->pfn_to_page(pfn), checking for the zone. > > If that's not possible, then extending dev_pagemap (e.g., indicating the > nid) might also work (unless there is another way to get the nid). > > > 2) Let's take a look at mm/memory-failure.c:memory_failure_dev_pagemap() > > IIUC, we might end up doing pfn_to_page(pfn) on a pfn in the reserved > altmap space, so one with an uninitialized memmap. > > E.g., in dax_lock_page() we access page->mapping, which might just be > garbage. dax_mapping() will de-reference garbage. > > Most probably I am missing something here. No you're not, this is a real issue because get_dev_pagemap() is valid for the metadata space. I need to add a patch to validate get_dev_pagemap() vs the pfns that are data vs metadata. > > > > Question is: what are the expectations regarding the memmap if > get_dev_pagemap() succeeded. > > I'm fine documenting that "get_dev_pagemap() does not guarantee that the > "struct page" returned by pfn_to_page() was initialized and can safely > be used. E.g., it might be a pfn in the reserved altmap space, for which > the memmap is never initialized. Accessing it might be dangerous.". > > Then, there has to be a check at relevant places (e.g., > memory_failure_dev_pagemap()), checking somehow if the memmap content > can actually be used. Ok, let me audit and fix that up. Thanks David.