On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:53 PM John Hubbard <jhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Now, I do agree that from a QoI standpoint, it would be really lovely > > if we actually enforced it. I'm not entirely sure we can, but maybe it > > would be reasonable to use that > > > > mm->has_pinned && page_maybe_dma_pinned(page) > > > > at least as the beginning of a heuristic. > > > > In fact, I do think that "page_maybe_dma_pinned()" could possibly be > > made stronger than it is. Because at *THAT* point, we might say "we > > What exactly did you have in mind, to make it stronger? I think the > answer is in this email but I don't quite see it yet... Literally just adding a " && page_mapcount(page) == 1" in there (probably best done inside page_maybe_dma_pinned() itself) > Direct IO pins, on the other hand, are more transient. We can probably live > without tagging Direct IO pages as FOLL_PIN. I think. Yes. I think direct-IO writes should be able to just do a transient GUP, and if it causes a COW fault that isn't coherent, that's the correct semantics, I think (ie the direct-IO will see the original data, the COW faulter will get it's own private copy to make changes to). I think pinning should be primarily limited to things that _require_ coherency (ie you pin because you're going to do some active two-way communication using that page) Does that match your thinking? Linus