Re: Pinning ZONE_MOVABLE pages

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> Makes sense, as this means no userspace change.
>
> > 2. Add an internal move_pages_zone() similar to move_pages() syscall
> > but instead of migrating to a different NUMA node, migrate pages from
> > ZONE_MOVABLE to another zone.
> > Call move_pages_zone() on demand prior to pinning pages from
> > vfio_pin_map_dma() for instance.
>
> As others already said, migrating away before the longterm pin should be
> the solution. IIRC it was one of the goals of long term pinning api
> proposed long time ago by Peter Ziljstra I think? The implementation
> that was merged relatively recently doesn't do that (yet?) for all
> movable pages, just CMA, but it could.

>From what I can tell, CMA is not solving exactly this problem. It
migrates pages from CMA before pinning, but it migrates them to
ZONE_MOVABLE. Also, we still need to take care of the fault scenario.

>
> > 3. Perhaps, it also makes sense to add madvise() flag, to allocate
> > pages from non-movable zone. When a user application knows that it
> > will do DMA mapping, and pin pages for a long time, the memory that it
> > allocates should never be migrated or hot-removed, so make sure that
> > it comes from the appropriate place.
> > The benefit of adding madvise() flag is that we won't have to deal
> > with slow page migration during pin time, but the disadvantage is that
> > we would need to change the user interface.
>
> It's best if we avoid involving userspace until it's shown that's it's
> insufficient.

Agree.

Thank you,
Pasha




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