Re: [PATCH v12 8/8] x86: Disallow vsyscall emulation when CET is enabled

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On 9/18/20 2:06 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:00 PM Pavel Machek <pavel@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Fri 2020-09-18 12:32:57, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 9/18/20 12:23 PM, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
>>>> Emulation of the legacy vsyscall page is required by some programs
>>>> built before 2013.  Newer programs after 2013 don't use it.
>>>> Disable vsyscall emulation when Control-flow Enforcement (CET) is
>>>> enabled to enhance security.
>>> How does this "enhance security"?
>>>
>>> What is the connection between vsyscall emulation and CET?
>> Boom.
>>
>> We don't break compatibility by default, and you should not tell
>> people to enable CET by default if you plan to do this.
>>
> Nothing will be broken.   CET enabled applications don't use/need
> vsyscall emulation.

Hi H.J.,

Could you explain your logic a bit more thoroughly, please?

I also suspect that Pavel was confused by your changelog where you said
that you do this when "CET is enabled".  Does enabled in this context mean:
1. Just CET support compiled in, or
2. Compiled in and on CET hardware, or
3. Compiled in to the kernel enabled in the app and running on CET
   hardware?





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