On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:42:11PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote: > On 7/14/20 12:29 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:06:16PM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:44:51AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > >>> So, if I followed along correctly, you're proposing to do a WRMSR per > >>> k{,un}map{_atomic}(), sounds like excellent performance all-round :-( > >> Only to pages which have this additional protection, ie not DRAM. > >> > >> User mappings of this memory is not affected (would be covered by User PKeys if > >> desired). User mappings to persistent memory are the primary use case and the > >> performant path. > > Because performance to non-volatile memory doesn't matter? I think Dave > > has a better answer here ... > > So, these WRMSRs are less evil than normal. They're architecturally > non-serializing instructions, just like the others in the SDM WRMSR > documentation: > > Note that WRMSR to the IA32_TSC_DEADLINE MSR (MSR index 6E0H) > and the X2APIC MSRs (MSR indices 802H to 83FH) are not > serializing. > > This section of the SDM needs to be updated for the PKRS. Also note > that the PKRS WRMSR is similar in its ordering properties to WRPKRU: > > WRPKRU will never execute speculatively. Memory accesses > affected by PKRU register will not execute (even speculatively) > until all prior executions of WRPKRU have completed execution > and updated the PKRU register. > > Which means we don't have to do silliness like LFENCE before WRMSR to > get ordering *back*. This is another tidbit that needs to get added to > the SDM. It should probably also get captured in the changelog. > > But, either way, this *will* make accessing PMEM more expensive from the > kernel. No escaping that. But, we've also got customers saying they > won't deploy PMEM until we mitigate this stray write issue. Those folks > are quite willing to pay the increased in-kernel cost for increased > protection from stray kernel writes. Intel is also quite motivated > because we really like increasing the number of PMEM deployments. :) > > Ira, can you make sure this all gets pulled into the changelogs somewhere? Yes of course. Thanks for writing that up. Ira