On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:40:27PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 03:26:58PM -0700, Luck, Tony wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:17:41PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > It might also be nice to have an madvise() MADV_ZERO option so the > > > application doesn't have to look up the fd associated with that memory > > > range, but we haven't floated that idea with the customer yet; I just > > > thought of it now. > > > > So the conversation between OS and kernel goes like this? > > > > 1) machine check > > 2) Kernel unmaps the 4K page surroundinng the poison and sends > > SIGBUS to the application to say that one cache line is gone > > 3) App says madvise(MADV_ZERO, that cache line) > > 4) Kernel says ... "oh, you know how to deal with this" and allocates > > a new page, copying the 63 good cache lines from the old page and > > zeroing the missing one. New page is mapped to user. > > That could be one way of implementing it. My understanding is that > pmem devices will reallocate bad cachelines on writes, so a better > implementation would be: > > 1) Kernel receives machine check > 2) Kernel sends SIGBUS to the application > 3) App send madvise(MADV_ZERO, addr, 1 << granularity) > 4) Kernel does special writes to ensure the cacheline is zeroed > 5) App does whatever it needs to recover (reconstructs the data or marks > it as gone) Frankly, I've wondered why the filesystem shouldn't just be in charge of all this-- 1. kernel receives machine check 2. kernel tattles to xfs 3. xfs looks up which file(s) own the pmem range 4. xfs zeroes the region, clears the poison, and sets AS_EIO on the files 5. xfs sends SIGBUS to any programs that had those files mapped to tell them "Your data is gone, we've stabilized the storage you had mapped." 6. app does whatever it needs to recover Apps shouldn't have to do this punch-and-reallocate dance, seeing as they don't currently do that for SCSI disks and the like. --D > > Do you have folks lined up to use that? I don't know that many > > folks are even catching the SIGBUS :-( > > Had a 75 minute meeting with some people who want to use pmem this > afternoon ...
