On Mon 07-10-19 16:19:59, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > On 10/2/19 10:43 AM, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Wed 02-10-19 06:16:43, Yang Shi wrote: > >> The commit 87eaceb3faa59b9b4d940ec9554ce251325d83fe ("mm: thp: make > >> deferred split shrinker memcg aware") makes deferred split queue per > >> memcg to resolve memcg pre-mature OOM problem. But, all nodes end up > >> sharing the same queue instead of one queue per-node before the commit. > >> It is not a big deal for memcg limit reclaim, but it may cause global > >> kswapd shrink THPs from a different node. > >> > >> And, 0-day testing reported -19.6% regression of stress-ng's madvise > >> test [1]. I didn't see that much regression on my test box (24 threads, > >> 48GB memory, 2 nodes), with the same test (stress-ng --timeout 1 > >> --metrics-brief --sequential 72 --class vm --exclude spawn,exec), I saw > >> average -3% (run the same test 10 times then calculate the average since > >> the test itself may have most 15% variation according to my test) > >> regression sometimes (not every time, sometimes I didn't see regression > >> at all). > >> > >> This might be caused by deferred split queue lock contention. With some > >> configuration (i.e. just one root memcg) the lock contention my be worse > >> than before (given 2 nodes, two locks are reduced to one lock). > >> > >> So, moving deferred split queue to memcg's nodeinfo to make it NUMA > >> aware again. > >> > >> With this change stress-ng's madvise test shows average 4% improvement > >> sometimes and I didn't see degradation anymore. > > > > My concern about this getting more and more complex > > (http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191002084014.GH15624@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) holds > > here even more. Can we step back and reconsider the whole thing please? > > What about freeing immediately after split via workqueue and also have a > synchronous version called before going oom? Maybe there would be also > other things that would benefit from this scheme instead of traditional > reclaim and shrinkers? That is exactly what we have discussed some time ago. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs