On 9/23/19 10:25 AM, Leonardo Bras wrote: > On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 17:48 -0700, John Hubbard wrote: >> > [...] >> So it seems that full memory barriers (not just compiler barriers) are required. >> If the irq enable/disable somehow provides that, then your new code just goes >> along for the ride and Just Works. (You don't have any memory barriers in >> start_lockless_pgtbl_walk() / end_lockless_pgtbl_walk(), just the compiler >> barriers provided by the atomic inc/dec.) >> >> So it's really a pre-existing question about the correctness of the gup_fast() >> irq disabling approach. > > I am not experienced in other archs, and I am still pretty new to > Power, but by what I could understand, this behavior is better > explained in serialize_against_pte_lookup. > > What happens here is that, before doing a THP split/collapse, the > function does a update of the pmd and a serialize_against_pte_lookup, > in order do avoid a invalid output on a lockless pagetable walk. > > Serialize basically runs a do_nothing in every cpu related to the > process, and wait for it to return. > > This running depends on interrupt being enabled, so disabling it before > gup_pgd_range() and re-enabling after the end, makes the THP > split/collapse wait for gup_pgd_range() completion in every cpu before > continuing. (here happens the lock) > That part is all fine, but there are no run-time memory barriers in the atomic_inc() and atomic_dec() additions, which means that this is not safe, because memory operations on CPU 1 can be reordered. It's safe as shown *if* there are memory barriers to keep the order as shown: CPU 0 CPU 1 ------ -------------- atomic_inc(val) (no run-time memory barrier!) pmd_clear(pte) if (val) run_on_all_cpus(): IPI local_irq_disable() (also not a mem barrier) READ(pte) if(pte) walk page tables local_irq_enable() (still not a barrier) atomic_dec(val) free(pte) thanks, -- John Hubbard NVIDIA > (As told before, every gup_pgd_range() that occurs after it uses a > updated pmd, so no problem.) > > I am sure other archs may have a similar mechanism using > local_irq_{disable,enable}. > > Did it answer your questions? > > Best regards, > > Leonardo Bras >