On 10.09.19 11:21, Dan Williams wrote: > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:06 AM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 09.09.19 13:53, Dan Williams wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 1:11 AM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> [..] >>>>>> It seems that SECTION_IS_ONLINE and SECTION_MARKED_PRESENT can be used to >>>>>> distinguish uninitialized struct pages if we can apply them to ZONE_DEVICE, >>>>>> but that is no longer necessary with this approach. >>>>> >>>>> Let's take a step back here to understand the issues I am aware of. I >>>>> think we should solve this for good now: >>>>> >>>>> A PFN walker takes a look at a random PFN at a random point in time. It >>>>> finds a PFN with SECTION_MARKED_PRESENT && !SECTION_IS_ONLINE. The >>>>> options are: >>>>> >>>>> 1. It is buddy memory (add_memory()) that has not been online yet. The >>>>> memmap contains garbage. Don't access. >>>>> >>>>> 2. It is ZONE_DEVICE memory with a valid memmap. Access it. >>>>> >>>>> 3. It is ZONE_DEVICE memory with an invalid memmap, because the section >>>>> is only partially present: E.g., device starts at offset 64MB within a >>>>> section or the device ends at offset 64MB within a section. Don't access it. >>>>> >>>>> 4. It is ZONE_DEVICE memory with an invalid memmap, because the memmap >>>>> was not initialized yet. memmap_init_zone_device() did not yet succeed >>>>> after dropping the mem_hotplug lock in mm/memremap.c. Don't access it. >>>>> >>>>> 5. It is reserved ZONE_DEVICE memory ("pages mapped, but reserved for >>>>> driver") with an invalid memmap. Don't access it. >>>>> >>>>> I can see that your patch tries to make #5 vanish by initializing the >>>>> memmap, fair enough. #3 and #4 can't be detected. The PFN walker could >>>>> still stumble over uninitialized memmaps. >>>>> >>>> >>>> FWIW, I thinkg having something like pfn_zone_device(), similarly >>>> implemented like pfn_zone_device_reserved() could be one solution to >>>> most issues. >>> >>> I've been thinking of a replacement for PTE_DEVMAP with section-level, >>> or sub-section level flags. The section-level flag would still require >>> a call to get_dev_pagemap() to validate that the pfn is not section in >>> the subsection case which seems to be entirely too much overhead. If >>> ZONE_DEVICE is to be a first class citizen in pfn walkers I think it >>> would be worth the cost to double the size of subsection_map and to >>> identify whether a sub-section is ZONE_DEVICE, or not. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >> >> I thought about this last week and came up with something like >> >> 1. Convert SECTION_IS_ONLINE to SECTION IS_ACTIVE >> >> 2. Make pfn_to_online_page() also check that it's not ZONE_DEVICE. >> Online pfns are limited to !ZONE_DEVICE. >> >> 3. Extend subsection_map to an additional active_map >> >> 4. Set SECTION IS_ACTIVE *iff* the whole active_map is set. This keeps >> most accesses of pfn_to_online_page() fast. If !SECTION IS_ACTIVE, check >> the active_map. >> >> 5. Set sub-sections active/unactive in >> move_pfn_range_to_zone()/remove_pfn_range_from_zone() - see "[PATCH v4 >> 0/8] mm/memory_hotplug: Shrink zones before removing memory" for the >> latter. >> >> 6. Set boot memory properly active (this is a tricky bit :/ ). >> >> However, it turned out too complex for my taste (and limited time to >> spend on this), so I abandoned that idea for now. If somebody wants to >> pick that up, fine. >> > > That seems to solve the pfn walk case but it would not address the > need for PTE_DEVMAP or speed up the other places that want an > efficient way to determine if it's worthwhile to call > get_dev_pagemap(). > Then I probably didn't get how your suggestion would look like :) Would you suggest - instead of reusing SECTION_IS_ONLINE - something like SECTION_IS_DEVMAP / SECTION_IS_DEVICE, to decide whether to call get_dev_pagemap()? How to deal with subsections? I would like to avoid storing subsection information only useful for ZONE_DEVICE for any kind of sections (or could we then simply not store the information per subsection but instead check the device as initially suggested by me?) -- Thanks, David / dhildenb