On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 13:38 -0700, David Rientjes wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2011, Mel Gorman wrote: > > > To avoid locking and per-cpu overhead, SLUB optimisically uses > > high-order allocations up to order-3 by default and falls back to > > lower allocations if they fail. While care is taken that the caller > > and kswapd take no unusual steps in response to this, there are > > further consequences like shrinkers who have to free more objects to > > release any memory. There is anecdotal evidence that significant time > > is being spent looping in shrinkers with insufficient progress being > > made (https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/28/361) and keeping kswapd awake. > > > > SLUB is now the default allocator and some bug reports have been > > pinned down to SLUB using high orders during operations like > > copying large amounts of data. SLUBs use of high-orders benefits > > applications that are sized to memory appropriately but this does not > > necessarily apply to large file servers or desktops. This patch > > causes SLUB to use order-0 pages like SLAB does by default. > > There is further evidence that this keeps kswapd's usage lower > > (https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/10/383). > > > > This is going to severely impact slub's performance for applications on > machines with plenty of memory available where fragmentation isn't a > concern when allocating from caches with large object sizes (even > changing the min order of kamlloc-256 from 1 to 0!) by default for users > who don't use slub_max_order=3 on the command line. SLUB relies heavily > on allocating from the cpu slab and freeing to the cpu slab to avoid the > slowpaths, so higher order slabs are important for its performance. > > I can get numbers for a simple netperf TCP_RR benchmark with this change > applied to show the degradation on a server with >32GB of RAM with this > patch applied. > > It would be ideal if this default could be adjusted based on the amount of > memory available in the smallest node to determine whether we're concerned > about making higher order allocations. (Using the smallest node as a > metric so that mempolicies and cpusets don't get unfairly biased against.) > With the previous changes in this patchset, specifically avoiding waking > kswapd and doing compaction for the higher order allocs before falling > back to the min order, it shouldn't be devastating to try an order-3 alloc > that will fail quickly. So my testing has shown that simply booting the kernel with slub_max_order=0 makes the hang I'm seeing go away. This definitely implicates the higher order allocations in the kswapd problem. I think it would be wise not to make it the default until we can sort out the root cause. James -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxx For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/ Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>