On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 01:30:36PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 18:18 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:56:17AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > > > # Events: 6K cycles > > > # > > > # Overhead Command Shared Object Symbol > > > # ........ ........... ................... ....................................... > > > # > > > 20.41% kswapd0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] shrink_slab > > > | > > > --- shrink_slab > > > | > > > |--99.91%-- kswapd > > > | kthread > > > | kernel_thread_helper > > > --0.09%-- [...] > > > > > > > Ok. I can't see how the patch "mm: vmscan: reclaim order-0 and use > > compaction instead of lumpy reclaim" is related unless we are seeing > > two problems that happen to manifest in a similar manner. > > > > However, there were a number of changes made to dcache in particular > > for 2.6.38. Specifically thinks like dentry_kill use trylock and is > > happy to loop around if it fails to acquire anything. See things like > > this for example; > > OK, so for this, I tried a 2.6.37 kernel. It doesn't work very well, > networking is hosed for no reason I can see (probably systemd / cgroups > problems). > > However, it runs enough for me to say that the tar proceeds to > completion in a non-PREEMPT kernel. (I tried several times for good > measure). That makes this definitely a regression of some sort, but it > doesn't definitively identify the dcache code ... it could be an ext4 > bug that got introduced in 2.6.38 either. > True, it could be any shrinker and dcache is just a guess. > > <SNIP> > > > > Way hey, cgroups are also in the mix. How jolly. > > > > Is systemd a common element of the machines hitting this bug by any > > chance? > > Well, yes, the bug report is against FC15, which needs cgroups for > systemd. > Ok although we do not have direct evidence that it's the problem yet. A broken shrinker could just mean we are also trying to aggressively reclaim in cgroups. > > The remaining traces seem to be follow-on damage related to the three > > issues of "shrinkers are bust in some manner" causing "we are not > > getting over the min watermark" and as a side-show "we are spending lots > > of time doing something unspecified but unhelpful in cgroups". > > Heh, well find a way for me to verify this: I can't turn off cgroups > because systemd then won't work and the machine won't boot ... > Same testcase, same kernel but a distro that is not using systemd to verify if cgroups are the problem. Not ideal I know. When I'm back online Tuesday, I'll try reproducing this on a !Fedora distribution. In the meantime, the following untested hatchet job might spit out which shrinker we are getting stuck in. It is also breaking out of the shrink_slab loop so it'd even be interesting to see if the bug is mitigated in any way. diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c index c74a501..ed99104 100644 --- a/mm/vmscan.c +++ b/mm/vmscan.c @@ -225,6 +225,7 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(unsigned long scanned, gfp_t gfp_mask, { struct shrinker *shrinker; unsigned long ret = 0; + unsigned long shrink_expired = jiffies + HZ; if (scanned == 0) scanned = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX; @@ -270,6 +271,14 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(unsigned long scanned, gfp_t gfp_mask, gfp_mask); if (shrink_ret == -1) break; + if (time_after(jiffies, shrink_expired)) { + printk(KERN_WARNING "Slab shrinker %p gone mental" + " comm=%s nr=%ld\n", + shrinker->shrink, + current->comm, + shrinker->nr); + break; + } if (shrink_ret < nr_before) ret += nr_before - shrink_ret; count_vm_events(SLABS_SCANNED, this_scan); -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxx For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/ Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>