On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 06:02:45PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 02:31:16PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > > syzkaller already attempts to randomly inject non-canonical and > > 0xFFFF....FFFF addresses for user pointers in syscalls in an effort to > > find bugs like CVE-2017-5123 where waitid() via unchecked put_user() was > > able to write directly to kernel memory[1]. > > > > It seems that using TBI by default and not allowing a switch back to > > "normal" ABI without a reboot actually means that userspace cannot inject > > kernel pointers into syscalls any more, since they'll get universally > > stripped now. Is my understanding correct, here? i.e. exploiting > > CVE-2017-5123 would be impossible under TBI? > > > > If so, then I think we should commit to the TBI ABI and have a boot > > flag to disable it, but NOT have a process flag, as that would allow > > attackers to bypass the masking. The only flag should be "TBI or MTE". > > > > If so, can I get top byte masking for other architectures too? Like, > > just to strip high bits off userspace addresses? ;) > > Just for fun, hack/attempt at your idea which should not interfere with > TBI. Only briefly tested on arm64 (and the s390 __TYPE_IS_PTR macro is > pretty weird ;)): OMG, this is amazing and bonkers. I love it. > --------------------------8<--------------------------------- > diff --git a/arch/s390/include/asm/compat.h b/arch/s390/include/asm/compat.h > index 63b46e30b2c3..338455a74eff 100644 > --- a/arch/s390/include/asm/compat.h > +++ b/arch/s390/include/asm/compat.h > @@ -11,9 +11,6 @@ > > #include <asm-generic/compat.h> > > -#define __TYPE_IS_PTR(t) (!__builtin_types_compatible_p( \ > - typeof(0?(__force t)0:0ULL), u64)) > - > #define __SC_DELOUSE(t,v) ({ \ > BUILD_BUG_ON(sizeof(t) > 4 && !__TYPE_IS_PTR(t)); \ > (__force t)(__TYPE_IS_PTR(t) ? ((v) & 0x7fffffff) : (v)); \ > diff --git a/include/linux/syscalls.h b/include/linux/syscalls.h > index e2870fe1be5b..b1b9fe8502da 100644 > --- a/include/linux/syscalls.h > +++ b/include/linux/syscalls.h > @@ -119,8 +119,15 @@ struct io_uring_params; > #define __TYPE_IS_L(t) (__TYPE_AS(t, 0L)) > #define __TYPE_IS_UL(t) (__TYPE_AS(t, 0UL)) > #define __TYPE_IS_LL(t) (__TYPE_AS(t, 0LL) || __TYPE_AS(t, 0ULL)) > +#define __TYPE_IS_PTR(t) (!__builtin_types_compatible_p(typeof(0 ? (__force t)0 : 0ULL), u64)) > #define __SC_LONG(t, a) __typeof(__builtin_choose_expr(__TYPE_IS_LL(t), 0LL, 0L)) a > +#ifdef CONFIG_64BIT > +#define __SC_CAST(t, a) (__TYPE_IS_PTR(t) \ > + ? (__force t) ((__u64)a & ~(1UL << 55)) \ > + : (__force t) a) > +#else > #define __SC_CAST(t, a) (__force t) a > +#endif > #define __SC_ARGS(t, a) a > #define __SC_TEST(t, a) (void)BUILD_BUG_ON_ZERO(!__TYPE_IS_LL(t) && sizeof(t) > sizeof(long)) I'm laughing, I'm crying. Now I have to go look at the disassembly to see how this actually looks. (I mean, it _does_ solve my specific case of the waitid() flaw, but wouldn't help with pointers deeper in structs, etc, though TBI does, I think still help with that. I have to catch back up on the thread...) Anyway, if it's not too expensive it'd block reachability for those kinds of flaws. I wonder what my chances are of actually getting this landed? :) (Though, I guess I need to find a "VA width" macro instead of a raw 55.) Thanks for thinking of __SC_CAST() and __TYPE_IS_PTR() together. Really made my day. :) -- Kees Cook