* Jiri Kosina: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2019, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> > preadv2(RWF_NOWAIT) can be used to open a side-channel to pagecache >> > contents, as it reveals metadata about residency of pages in >> > pagecache. >> > >> > If preadv2(RWF_NOWAIT) returns immediately, it provides a clear "page >> > not resident" information, and vice versa. >> > >> > Close that sidechannel by always initiating readahead on the cache if >> > we encounter a cache miss for preadv2(RWF_NOWAIT); with that in place, >> > probing the pagecache residency itself will actually populate the >> > cache, making the sidechannel useless. >> >> I think this needs to use a different flag because the semantics are so >> much different. If I understand this change correctly, previously, >> RWF_NOWAIT essentially avoided any I/O, and now it does not. > > It still avoid synchronous I/O, due to this code still being in place: > > if (!PageUptodate(page)) { > if (iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_NOWAIT) { > put_page(page); > goto would_block; > } > > but goes the would_block path only after initiating asynchronous > readahead. But it wouldn't schedule asynchronous readahead before? I'm worried that something, say PostgreSQL doing a sequential scan, would implement a two-pass approach, first using RWF_NOWAIT to process what's in the kernel page cache, and then read the rest without it. If RWF_NOWAIT is treated as a prefetch hint, there could be much more read activity, and a lot of it would be pointless because the data might have to be evicted before userspace can use it. Thanks, Florian