On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:21:08AM -0500, Jerome Glisse wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 09:42:25PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote: > > On 1/16/19 5:08 AM, Jerome Glisse wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:38:19PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote: > > >> That actually touches on another question I wanted to get opinions on. GUP > > >> can be for read and GUP can be for write (that is one of GUP flags). > > >> Filesystems with page cache generally have issues only with GUP for write > > >> as it can currently corrupt data, unexpectedly dirty page etc.. DAX & memory > > >> hotplug have issues with both (DAX cannot truncate page pinned in any way, > > >> memory hotplug will just loop in kernel until the page gets unpinned). So > > >> we probably want to track both types of GUP pins and page-cache based > > >> filesystems will take the hit even if they don't have to for read-pins? > > > > > > Yes the distinction between read and write would be nice. With the map > > > count solution you can only increment the mapcount for GUP(write=true). > > > With pin bias the issue is that a big number of read pin can trigger > > > false positive ie you would do: > > > GUP(vaddr, write) > > > ... > > > if (write) > > > atomic_add(page->refcount, PAGE_PIN_BIAS) > > > else > > > atomic_inc(page->refcount) > > > > > > PUP(page, write) > > > if (write) > > > atomic_add(page->refcount, -PAGE_PIN_BIAS) > > > else > > > atomic_dec(page->refcount) > > > > > > I am guessing false positive because of too many read GUP is ok as > > > it should be unlikely and when it happens then we take the hit. > > > > > > > I'm also intrigued by the point that read-only GUP is harmless, and we > > could just focus on the writeable case. > > For filesystem anybody that just look at the page is fine, as it would > not change its content thus the page would stay stable. Other processes can access and dirty the page cache page while there is a GUP reference. It's unclear to me whether that changes what GUP needs to do here, but we can't assume a page referenced for read-only GUP will be clean and unchanging for the duration of the GUP reference. It may even be dirty at the time of the read-only GUP pin... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx