On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 06:18:16PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 6:03 PM Dave Chinner <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 02:11:01PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > And we *can* do sane things about RWF_NOWAIT. For example, we could > > > start async IO on RWF_NOWAIT, and suddenly it would go from "probe the > > > page cache" to "probe and fill", and be much harder to use as an > > > attack vector.. > > > > We can only do that if the application submits the read via AIO and > > has an async IO completion reporting mechanism. > > Oh, no, you misunderstand. > > RWF_NOWAIT has a lot of situations where it will potentially return > early (the DAX and direct IO ones have their own), but I was thinking > of the one in generic_file_buffered_read(), which triggers when you > don't find a page mapping. That looks like the obvious "probe page > cache" case. > > But we could literally move that test down just a few lines. Let it > start read-ahead. > > .. and then it will actually trigger on the *second* case instead, where we have > > if (!PageUptodate(page)) { > if (iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_NOWAIT) { > put_page(page); > goto would_block; > } > > and that's where RWF_MNOWAIT would act. > > It would still return EAGAIN. > > But it would have started filling the page cache. So now the act of > probing would fill the page cache, and the attacker would be left high > and dry - the fact that the page cache now exists is because of the > attack, not because of whatever it was trying to measure. > > See? Except for fadvise(POSIX_FADV_RANDOM) which triggers this code in page_cache_sync_readahead(): /* be dumb */ if (filp && (filp->f_mode & FMODE_RANDOM)) { force_page_cache_readahead(mapping, filp, offset, req_size); return; } So it will only read the single page we tried to access and won't perturb the rest of the message encoded into subsequent pages in file. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx