On 12/4/18 12:00 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:19 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:37 PM Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Finally, If you're going to teach the kernel how to have some user >> pages that aren't in the direct map, you've essentially done XPO, >> which is nifty but expensive. And I think that doing this gets you >> essentially all the benefit of MKTME for the non-pmem use case. Why >> exactly would any software want to use anything other than a >> CPU-managed key for anything other than pmem? > > Let me say this less abstractly. Here's a somewhat concrete actual > proposal. Make a new memfd_create() flag like MEMFD_ISOLATED. The > semantics are that the underlying pages are made not-present in the > direct map when they're allocated (which is hideously slow, but so be > it), and that anything that tries to get_user_pages() the resulting > pages fails. And then make sure we have all the required APIs so that > QEMU can still map this stuff into a VM. I think we need get_user_pages(). We want direct I/O to work, *and* we really want direct device assignment into VMs. > And maybe we get fancy and encrypt this memory when it's swapped, but > maybe we should just encrypt everything when it's swapped. We decided long ago (and this should be in the patches somewhere) that we wouldn't force memory to be encrypted in swap. We would just recommend it in the documentation as a best practice, especially when using MKTME. We can walk that back, of course, but that's what we're doing at the moment.
