On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:30:17 -0700 (PDT) David Rientjes <rientjes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Would it be possible to test with my > > > patch[*] that does not try reclaim to address the thrashing issue? > > > > Yes please. > > It'd also be great if a testcase reproducing the 40% higher access > latency (with the one liner original fix) was available. > I never said 40% higher access latency, I said 40% higher fault latency. The higher access latency is 13.9% as measured on Haswell. The test case is rather trivial: fragment all memory with order-4 memory to replicate a fragmented local zone, use sched_setaffinity() to bind to that node, and fault a reasonable number of hugepages (128MB, 256, whatever). The cost of faulting remotely in this case was measured to be 40% higher than falling back to local small pages. This occurs quite obviously because you are thrashing the remote node trying to allocate thp. > We don't have a testcase for David's 40% latency increase problem, but > that's likely to only happen when the system is somewhat low on memory > globally. Well, yes, but that's most of our systems. We can't keep around gigabytes of memory free just to work around this patch. Removing __GFP_THISNODE to avoid thrashing the local node obviously will incur a substantial performance degradation if you thrash the remote node as well. This should be rather straight forward. > When there's 75% or more of the RAM free (not even allocated as easily > reclaimable pagecache) globally, you don't expect to hit heavy > swapping. > I agree there is no regression introduced by your patch when 75% of memory is free. > The 40% THP allocation latency increase if you use MADV_HUGEPAGE in > such window where all remote zones are fully fragmented is somehow > lesser of a concern in my view (plus there's the compact deferred > logic that should mitigate that scenario). Furthermore it is only a > concern for page faults in MADV_HUGEPAGE ranges. If MADV_HUGEPAGE is > set the userland allocation is long lived, so such higher allocation > latency won't risk to hit short lived allocations that don't set > MADV_HUGEPAGE (unless madvise=always, but that's not the default > precisely because not all allocations are long lived). > > If the MADV_HUGEPAGE using library was freely available it'd also be > nice. > You scan your mappings for .text segments, map a hugepage-aligned region sufficient in size, mremap() to that region, and do MADV_HUGEPAGE.