Re: [PATCH] pkeys: Introduce PKEY_ALLOC_SIGNALINHERIT and change signal semantics

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On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 01:37:46PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:35 PM Ram Pai <linuxram@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:40:46PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > On 05/08/2018 04:49 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > >On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 2:48 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>On 05/03/2018 06:05 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > >>>On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:11 PM Ram Pai <linuxram@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 09:23:49PM +0000, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>If I recall correctly, the POWER maintainer did express a strong
> > > >>>desire
> > > >>>>>>back then for (what is, I believe) their current semantics, which
> my
> > > >>>>>>PKEY_ALLOC_SIGNALINHERIT patch implements for x86, too.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Ram, I really really don't like the POWER semantics.  Can you give
> > > >some
> > > >>>>>justification for them?  Does POWER at least have an atomic way for
> > > >>>>>userspace to modify just the key it wants to modify or, even
> better,
> > > >>>>>special load and store instructions to use alternate keys?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>I wouldn't call it POWER semantics. The way I implemented it on
> power
> > > >>>>lead to the semantics, given that nothing was explicitly stated
> > > >>>>about how the semantics should work within a signal handler.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I think that this is further evidence that we should introduce a new
> > > >>>pkey_alloc() mode and deprecate the old.  To the extent possible,
> this
> > > >>>thing should work the same way on x86 and POWER.
> > > >
> > > >>Do you propose to change POWER or to change x86?
> > > >
> > > >Sorry for being slow to reply.  I propose to introduce a new
> > > >PKEY_ALLOC_something variant on x86 and POWER and to make the behavior
> > > >match on both.
> > >
> > > So basically implement PKEY_ALLOC_SETSIGNAL for POWER, and keep the
> > > existing (different) behavior without the flag?
> > >
> > > Ram, would you be okay with that?  Could you give me a hand if
> > > necessary?  (I assume we have silicon in-house because it's a
> > > long-standing feature of the POWER platform which was simply dormant
> > > on Linux until now.)
> 
> > Yes. I can help you with that.
> 
> > So let me see if I understand the overall idea.
> 
> > Application can allocate new keys through a new syscall
> > sys_pkey_alloc_1(flags, init_val, sig_init_val)
> 
> > 'sig_init_val' is the permission-state of the key in signal context.
> 
> > The kernel will set the permission of each keys to their
> > corresponding values when entering the signal handler and revert
> > on return from the signal handler.
> 
> > just like init_val, sig_init_val also percolates to children threads.
> 
> 
> I was imagining it would be just pkey_alloc(SOME_NEW_FLAG, init_val); and
> the init val would be used for the current thread and for signal handlers.

what would change the key-permission-values enforced in signal-handler
context?  Or can it never be changed, ones set through sys_pkey_alloc()?

I suppose key-permission-values change done in non-signal-handler context,
will not apply to those in signal-handler context.

Can the signal handler change the key-permission-values from the
signal-handler context?

RP




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