Re: [PATCH 00/31 v2] PTI support for x86_32

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On Sunday, 11 February 2018 23:25 Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 11:42:47 -0800
> 
> Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Feb 11, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Mark D Rustad <mrustad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:59 AM, Adam Borowski <kilobyte@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>> Does Debian make it easy to upgrade to a 64-bit kernel if you have a
> > >>> 32-bit install?
> > >> 
> > >> Quite easy, yeah.  Crossgrading userspace is not for the faint of the
> > >> heart, but changing just the kernel is fine.
> > > 
> > > ISTR that iscsi doesn't work when running a 64-bit kernel with a 32-bit
> > > userspace. I remember someone offered kernel patches to fix it, but I
> > > think they were rejected. I haven't messed with that stuff in many
> > > years, so perhaps the userspace side now has accommodation for it. It
> > > might be something to check on.
> > > 
> > At the risk of suggesting heresy, should we consider removing x86_32
> > support at some point?
> 
> Probably - although it's still relevant for Quark. I can't think of any
> other in-production 32bit only processor at this point. Big core Intel
> went 64bit 2006 or so, atoms mostly 2008 or so (with some stragglers that
> are 32 or 64 bit depending if it's enabled) until 2011 (Cedartrail)

FWIW the Atom E6xx series (Tunnel Creek) is 32bit only and still in
production; my employer is using those beasts in several devices - and I'm
fighting an uphill battle to have those products ship with a recent kernel
(for certain values of recent)

> If someone stuck a fork in it just after the next long term kernel
> release then by the time that expired it would probably be historical
> interest only.
> 
> Does it not depend if there is someone crazy enough to maintain it
> however - 68000 is doing fine 8)

Cheers
Anders

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