Re: [rfc 2/2] smaps: Show zone device memory used

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On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat 21-10-17 08:55:59, Balbir Singh wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Wed 18-10-17 17:31:23, Balbir Singh wrote:
>> >> With HMM, we can have either public or private zone
>> >> device pages. With private zone device pages, they should
>> >> show up as swapped entities. For public zone device pages
>> >> the smaps output can be confusing and incomplete.
>> >>
>> >> This patch adds a new attribute to just smaps to show
>> >> device memory usage.
>> >
>> > As this will become user API which we will have to maintain for ever I
>> > would really like to hear about who is going to use this information and
>> > what for.
>>
>> This is something I observed when running some tests with HMM/CDM.
>> The issue I had was that there was no visibility of what happened to the
>> pages after the following sequence
>>
>> 1. malloc/mmap pages
>> 2. migrate_vma() to ZONE_DEVICE (hmm/cdm space)
>> 3. look at smaps
>>
>> If we look at smaps after 1 and the pages are faulted in we can see the
>> pages for the region, but at point 3, there is absolutely no visibility of
>> what happened to the pages. I thought smaps is a good way to provide
>> the visibility as most developers use that interface. It's more to fix the
>> inconsistency I saw w.r.t visibility and accounting.
>
> Yes I can see how this can be confusing. But, well, I have grown overly
> cautious regarding user APIs over time. So I would rather not add
> something new until we have a real user with a usecase in mind. We can
> always add this later but once we have exposed the accounting we are
> bound to maintain it for ever.

I see your point. But we are beginning to build on top of this. I'll just add
it as a private patch in my patchset. But soon, we'll need to address HMM/CDM
pages of different sizes as well. My problem right now is to ensure correctness
of the design and expectations and a large part of it is tracking
where the pages
are.

Balbir Singh.

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