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I'm on vacation and experiencing technical difficulties uploading the slides. I'll upload them next week.
Sorry
Guy
>On 10/04/2017 01:56 AM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
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>Hi,
>
>> At Plumbers this year, Guy Shattah and Christoph Lameter gave a presentation
>> titled 'User space contiguous memory allocation for DMA' [1]. The slides
>
>Hm I didn't find slides on that link, are they available?
>
>> point out the performance benefits of devices that can take advantage of
>> larger physically contiguous areas.
>>
>> When such physically contiguous allocations are done today, they are done
>> within drivers themselves in an ad-hoc manner.
>
>As Michal N. noted, the drivers might have different requirements. Is
>contiguity (without extra requirements) so common that it would benefit
>from a userspace API change?
>Also how are the driver-specific allocations done today? mmap() on the
>driver's device? Maybe we could provide some in-kernel API/library to
>make them less "ad-hoc". Conversion to MAP_ANONYMOUS would at first seem
>like an improvement in that userspace would be able to use a generic
>allocation API and all the generic treatment of anonymous pages (LRU
>aging, reclaim, migration etc), but the restrictions you listed below
>eliminate most of that?
>(It's likely that I just don't have enough info about how it works today
>so it's difficult to judge)
>
>> In addition to allocations
>> for DMA, allocations of this type are also performed for buffers used by
>> coprocessors and other acceleration engines.
>>
>> As mentioned in the presentation, posix specifies an interface to obtain
>> physically contiguous memory. This is via typed memory objects as described
>> in the posix_typed_mem_open() man page. Since Linux today does not follow
>> the posix typed memory object model, adding infrastructure for contiguous
>> memory allocations seems to be overkill. Instead, a proposal was suggested
>> to add support via a mmap flag: MAP_CONTIG.
>>
>> mmap(MAP_CONTIG) would have the following semantics:
>> - The entire mapping (length size) would be backed by physically contiguous
>> pages.
>> - If 'length' physically contiguous pages can not be allocated, then mmap
>> will fail.
>> - MAP_CONTIG only works with MAP_ANONYMOUS mappings.
>> - MAP_CONTIG will lock the associated pages in memory. As such, the same
>> privileges and limits that apply to mlock will also apply to MAP_CONTIG.
>> - A MAP_CONTIG mapping can not be expanded.
>> - At fork time, private MAP_CONTIG mappings will be converted to regular
>> (non-MAP_CONTIG) mapping in the child. As such a COW fault in the child
>> will not require a contiguous allocation.
>>
>> Some implementation considerations:
>> - alloc_contig_range() or similar will be used for allocations larger
>> than MAX_ORDER.
>> - MAP_CONTIG should imply MAP_POPULATE. At mmap time, all pages for the
>> mapping must be 'pre-allocated', and they can only be used for the mapping,
>> so it makes sense to 'fault in' all pages.
>> - Using 'pre-allocated' pages in the fault paths may be intrusive.
>> - We need to keep keep track of those pre-allocated pages until the vma is
>> tore down, especially if free_contig_range() must be called.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> - Is such an interface useful?
>> - Any other ideas on how to achieve the same functionality?
>> - Any thoughts on implementation?
>>
>> I have started down the path of pre-allocating contiguous pages at mmap
>> time and hanging those off the vma(vm_private_data) with some kludges to
>> use the pages at fault time. It is really ugly, which is why I am not
>> sharing the code. Hoping for some comments/suggestions.
>>
>> [1] https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="">
>>
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