On 9/26/17 6:09 AM, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:35:48AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: >> On Tue 26-09-17 09:38:12, Dave Chinner wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 05:13:58PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote: >>>> Before support for the per-inode DAX flag was disabled the XFS the code had >>>> an issue where the user couldn't reliably tell whether or not DAX was being >>>> used to service page faults and I/O when the DAX mount option was used. In >>>> this case each inode within the mounted filesystem started with S_DAX set >>>> due to the mount option, but it could be cleared if someone touched the >>>> individual inode flag. >>>> >>>> For example (v4.13 and before): >>>> >>>> # mount | grep dax >>>> /dev/pmem0 on /mnt type xfs >>>> (rw,relatime,seclabel,attr2,dax,inode64,sunit=4096,swidth=4096,noquota) >>>> >>>> # touch /mnt/a /mnt/b # both files currently use DAX >>>> >>>> # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* # neither has the DAX inode option set >>>> ----------e----- /mnt/a >>>> ----------e----- /mnt/b >>>> >>>> # xfs_io -c "chattr -x" /mnt/a # this clears S_DAX for /mnt/a >>>> >>>> # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/* >>>> ----------e----- /mnt/a >>>> ----------e----- /mnt/b >>> >>> That's really a bug in the lsattr code, yes? If we've cleared the >>> S_DAX flag for the inode, then why is it being reported in lsattr? >>> Or if we failed to clear the S_DAX flag in the 'chattr -x' call, >>> then isn't that the bug that needs fixing? >>> >>> Remember, the whole point of the dax inode flag was to be able to >>> override the mount option setting so that admins could turn off/on >>> dax for the things that didn't/did work with DAX correctly so they >>> didn't need multiple filesystems on pmem to segregate the apps that >>> did/didn't work with DAX... >> >> So I think there is some confusion that is created by the fact that whether >> DAX is used or not is controlled by both a mount option and an inode flag. >> We could define that "Inode flag always wins" which is what you seem to >> suggest above but then mount option has no practical effect since on-disk >> S_DAX flag will always overrule it. > > Well, quite frankly, I never wanted the mount option for XFS. It was > supposed to be for initial testing only, then we'd /always/ use the > the inode flags. For a filesystem to default to using DAX, we > set the DAX flag on the root inode at mkfs time, and then everything > inode flag based just works. > > But it seems that we're now stuck with the stupid, blunt, brute > force mount option because that's what the first commit on ext4 > used. Now we're just about stuck with this silly "but we can't turn > it off" problem because of the mount option overriding everything. I don't think the existence of a mount option in ext4 makes us any more "stuck" than the mount option in xfs does. fs/xfs/xfs_super.c: "DAX enabled. Warning: EXPERIMENTAL, use at your own risk"); fs/ext4/super.c: "DAX enabled. Warning: EXPERIMENTAL, use at your own risk"); so when^wif this argument ever gets settled, I think there is plenty of latitude to do the right thing, potentially breaking the old thing. > If we have to keep the mount option, then lets fix it to mean "mount > option sets inheritable inode flag on directory creation" and > /maybe/ "mount option sets inode flag on file creation". > > This then allows the inode flag to control everything else. i.e the > mount option sets the initial flag value rather than the behaviour > of the inode. The behaviour of the inode should be entirely > controlled by the inode flag, hence after initial creation the > chattr +/-x commands do what they advertise regardless of the mount > option value. > > Yes, it means that existing users are going to have to run chattr -R > +x on their pmem filesystems to get the inode flags on disk, but > this is all tagged with EXPERIMENTAL and this is the sort of change ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > that is expected from experimental functionality. Right. -Eric > Cheers, > > Dave. > -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>
