On Wed 13-09-17 14:10:01, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Wed 13-09-17 13:41:20, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > On 09/11/2017 10:17 AM, Michal Hocko wrote: > [...] > > > Yes, we should be able to distinguish the two and hopefully we can teach > > > the migration code to distinguish between EBUSY (likely permanent) and > > > EGAIN (temporal) failure. This sound like something we should aim for > > > longterm I guess. Anyway as I've said in other email. If somebody really > > > wants to have a guaratee of a bounded retry then it is trivial to set up > > > an alarm and send a signal itself to bail out. > > > > Sure, I would just be careful about not breaking existing userspace > > (udev?) when offline triggered via ACPI from some management interface > > (or whatever the exact mechanism is). > > The thing is that there is absolutely no timing guarantee even with > retry limit in place. We are doing allocations, potentially bouncing on > locks which can be taken elsewhere etc... So if somebody really depend > on this then it is pretty much broken already. > > > > Do you think that the changelog should be more clear about this? > > > > It certainly wouldn't hurt :) > > So what do you think about the following wording: Ups, wrong patch >From 8639496a834b4a7c24972ec23b17e50f0d6a304c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:46:12 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 1/2] mm, memory_hotplug: do not fail offlining too early Memory offlining can fail just too eagerly under a heavy memory pressure. [ 5410.336792] page:ffffea22a646bd00 count:255 mapcount:252 mapping:ffff88ff926c9f38 index:0x3 [ 5410.336809] flags: 0x9855fe40010048(uptodate|active|mappedtodisk) [ 5410.336811] page dumped because: isolation failed [ 5410.336813] page->mem_cgroup:ffff8801cd662000 [ 5420.655030] memory offlining [mem 0x18b580000000-0x18b5ffffffff] failed Isolation has failed here because the page is not on LRU. Most probably because it was on the pcp LRU cache or it has been removed from the LRU already but it hasn't been freed yet. In both cases the page doesn't look non-migrable so retrying more makes sense. __offline_pages seems rather cluttered when it comes to the retry logic. We have 5 retries at maximum and a timeout. We could argue whether the timeout makes sense but failing just because of a race when somebody isoltes a page from LRU or puts it on a pcp LRU lists is just wrong. It only takes it to race with a process which unmaps some pages and remove them from the LRU list and we can fail the whole offline because of something that is a temporary condition and actually not harmful for the offline. Please note that unmovable pages should be already excluded during start_isolate_page_range. We could argue that has_unmovable_pages is racy and MIGRATE_MOVABLE check doesn't provide any hard guarantee either but kernel zones (aka < ZONE_MOVABLE) will very likely detect unmovable pages in most cases and movable zone shouldn't contain unmovable pages at all. Some of those pages might be pinned but not for ever because that would be a bug on its own. In any case the context is still interruptible and so the userspace can easily bail out when the operation takes too long. This is certainly better behavior than a hardcoded retry loop which is racy. Fix this by removing the max retry count and only rely on the timeout resp. interruption by a signal from the userspace. Also retry rather than fail when check_pages_isolated sees some !free pages because those could be a result of the race as well. Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@xxxxxxxx> -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>