> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > We encountered workloads that have very long wake up list on large > > systems. A waker takes a long time to traverse the entire wake list > > and execute all the wake functions. > > > > We saw page wait list that are up to 3700+ entries long in tests of > > large > > 4 and 8 socket systems. It took 0.8 sec to traverse such list during > > wake up. Any other CPU that contends for the list spin lock will spin > > for a long time. As page wait list is shared by many pages so it > > could get very long on systems with large memory. > > I really dislike this patch. > > The patch seems a band-aid for really horrible kernel behavior, rather than > fixing the underlying problem itself. > > Now, it may well be that we do end up needing this band-aid in the end, so > this isn't a NAK of the patch per se. But I'd *really* like to see if we can fix the > underlying cause for what you see somehow.. > > In particular, if this is about the page wait table, maybe we can just make the > wait table bigger. IOW, are people actually waiting on the > *same* page, or are they mainly waiting on totally different pages, just > hashing to the same wait queue? > > Because right now that page wait table is a small fixed size, and the only > reason it's a small fixed size is that nobody reported any issues with it - > particularly since we now avoid the wait table entirely for the common cases > by having that "contention" bit. > > But it really is a *small* table. We literally have > > #define PAGE_WAIT_TABLE_BITS 8 > > so it's just 256 entries. We could easily it much bigger, if we are actually > seeing a lot of collissions. > > We *used* to have a very complex per-zone thing for bit-waitiqueues, but > that was because we got lots and lots of contention issues, and everybody > *always* touched the wait-queues whether they waited or not (so being per- > zone was a big deal) > > We got rid of all that per-zone complexity when the normal case didn't hit in > the page wait queues at all, but we may have over-done the simplification a > bit since nobody showed any issue. > > In particular, we used to size the per-zone thing by amount of memory. > We could easily re-introduce that for the new simpler page queues. > > The page_waitiqueue() is a simple helper function inside mm/filemap.c, and > thanks to the per-page "do we have actual waiters" bit that we have now, we > can actually afford to make it bigger and more complex now if we want to. > > What happens to your load if you just make that table bigger? You can > literally test by just changing the constant from 8 to 16 or something, making > us use twice as many bits for hashing. A "real" > patch would size it by amount of memory, but just for testing the contention > on your load, you can do the hacky one-liner. Hi Linus, We tried both 12 and 16 bit table and that didn't make a difference. The long wake ups are mostly on the same page when we do instrumentation Here is the wake_up_page_bit call stack when the workaround is running, which is collected by perf record -g -a -e probe:wake_up_page_bit -- sleep 10 # To display the perf.data header info, please use --header/--header-only options. # # # Total Lost Samples: 0 # # Samples: 374 of event 'probe:wake_up_page_bit' # Event count (approx.): 374 # # Overhead Trace output # ........ .................. # 100.00% (ffffffffae1ad000) | ---wake_up_page_bit | |--49.73%--migrate_misplaced_transhuge_page | do_huge_pmd_numa_page | __handle_mm_fault | handle_mm_fault | __do_page_fault | do_page_fault | page_fault | | | |--28.07%--0x2b7b7 | | | | | |--13.64%--0x127a2 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | |--13.37%--0x127d8 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | |--0.53%--0x1280e | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | --0.27%--0x12844 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | |--18.18%--0x2b788 | | | | | |--14.97%--0x127a2 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | |--1.34%--0x1287a | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | |--0.53%--0x128b0 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | |--0.53%--0x1280e | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | |--0.53%--0x127d8 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | --0.27%--0x12844 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | |--1.07%--0x2b823 | | | | | |--0.53%--0x127a2 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | |--0.27%--0x1287a | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | --0.27%--0x127d8 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | |--0.80%--0x2b88f | | | | | --0.53%--0x127d8 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | |--0.80%--0x2b7f4 | | | | | |--0.53%--0x127d8 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | --0.27%--0x127a2 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | |--0.53%--0x2b8fb | | 0x127a2 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | --0.27%--0x2b8e9 | 0x127a2 | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | |--44.12%--__handle_mm_fault | handle_mm_fault | __do_page_fault | do_page_fault | page_fault | | | |--30.75%--_dl_relocate_object | | dl_main | | _dl_sysdep_start | | 0x40 | | | --13.37%--memset | _dl_map_object | | | |--2.94%--_etext | | | |--0.80%--0x7f34ea294b08 | | 0 | | | |--0.80%--0x7f1d5fa64b08 | | 0 | | | |--0.53%--0x7fd4c83dbb08 | | 0 | | | |--0.53%--0x7efe3724cb08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7ff2cf0b69c0 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7fc9bc22cb08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7fc432971058 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7faf21ec2b08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7faf21ec2640 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f940f08e058 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f4b84122640 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f42c8fd7fd8 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f3f15778fd8 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f3f15776058 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f34ea27dfd8 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f34ea27b058 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f2a0409bb08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f2a04084fd8 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f2a04082058 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f1949633b08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f194961cfd8 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f1629f87b08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f1629f70fd8 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f1629f6e058 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f060696eb08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7f04ac14c9c0 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7efe8b4bbb08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7efe8b4a59c0 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7efe8b4a4fd8 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7efe8b4a2058 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x7efcd0c70b08 | | 0 | | | |--0.27%--0x207ad8 | | 0 | | | --0.27%--0x206b30 | 0 | |--2.14%--filemap_map_pages | __handle_mm_fault | handle_mm_fault | __do_page_fault | do_page_fault | page_fault | | | |--0.53%--_IO_vfscanf | | | | | |--0.27%--0x6563697665442055 | | | | | --0.27%--_IO_vsscanf | | 0x6563697665442055 | | | |--0.53%--_dl_map_object_from_fd | | _dl_map_object | | | | | |--0.27%--0x7faf21ec2640 | | | 0 | | | | | --0.27%--_etext | | | |--0.27%--__libc_enable_asynccancel | | __fopen_internal | | 0x6d6f6f2f30373635 | | | |--0.27%--vfprintf | | _IO_vsprintf | | 0x4 | | | |--0.27%--0x1fb40 | | 0x41d589495541f689 | | | --0.27%--memset@plt | |--1.87%--do_huge_pmd_numa_page | __handle_mm_fault | handle_mm_fault | __do_page_fault | do_page_fault | page_fault | | | |--0.80%--0x2b7b7 | | 0x127d8 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | |--0.80%--0x2b788 | | 0x127a2 | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | --0.27%--0x2b918 | 0x127d8 | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | |--1.87%--migrate_pages | migrate_misplaced_page | __handle_mm_fault | handle_mm_fault | __do_page_fault | do_page_fault | page_fault | | | |--1.07%--0x2b7b7 | | | | | |--0.80%--0x127d8 | | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | | | --0.27%--0x1287a | | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | | | --0.80%--0x2b788 | 0x127a2 | 0x7fb5247eddc5 | --0.27%--do_wp_page __handle_mm_fault handle_mm_fault __do_page_fault do_page_fault page_fault _IO_link_in Thanks, Kan ��.n������g����a����&ޖ)���)��h���&������梷�����Ǟ�m������)������^�����������v���O��zf������